# McCain campaign slams Obama's visit to his grandmother

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 23, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233 "2008-10-23T17:27:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/161 "2008-10-25T00:30:23Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> She didn’t fly back. She had the investigator fly down to Missouri today to take her deposition. No word on who paid for the flight.

The state of Alaska will have to pay for that, since it’s part of an official investigation.

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**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/162 "2008-10-25T00:33:07Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> She didn’t fly back. She had the investigator fly down to Missouri today to take her deposition. No word on who paid for the flight.

She did fly back to Alaska, though, in September on the campaign charter jet.

Was she working on official campaign business for that trip?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/163 "2008-10-25T00:34:23Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> She didn’t fly back. She had the investigator fly down to Missouri today to take her deposition. No word on who paid for the flight.

She’s dropping the puck at the Blues game tonight. No word yet on whether she got booed; the announcers are pushing the United Way.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/164 "2008-10-25T00:36:32Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I hope that Mr Blakeman’s grandma is still alive and rips him another one when he sees her next.
> 
> I’m done. I tried. I gave the Reps the benefit of the doubt. I said to myself, hey, it’s politics, even as it got nastier and nastier. I lost respect for the party (not that I had all that much to begin with–my contempt started back with Ronnie). I lost any admiration I had for McCain’s military service. But still I said, “the country needs two voices, even if one of them seems to specialize in bile.”.  
> No more–bury these fuckers and make it hurt. This is a new high in lows. I don’t want to hear that he “mis-spoke” or that it was a “joke” or that “you’re naive and this is how the game is played”. Every one of us has choices we can make on how we treat and react to other people. The GOP has consistently shown horrible judgement when it comes to picking people for responsible positions, for public office and as campaign operatives. Slash and burn politics is dead in the water and thank god.
> 
> I say to all GOP supporters: you had your day. You had your chance(s). You failed miserably to help or lead this country in any useful way. You are done–and what a way to go out: mocking the serious illness of an old woman whose family loves her. Nothing could be more apt. This IS the GOP revealed. They don’t give a shit about anyone but #1; they truly are the “I got mine” party.  
> I don’t want to hear the bleating of “but this is only one person; you can’t judge the whole party on this one asshole.” Yes, yes I can. This one asshole KNOWS he represents the GOP and McCain when he speaks–and this is what he chooses to say. Enough.

And, **eleanorigby** , this is a new high of always-highs in respect that I have for you. Well said.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/165 "2008-10-25T00:46:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It was $3,300, and he was assuming Obama was flying a 767 based on the jerk’s comment, and not a smaller 757, which is what Obama actually uses. It’s such a piffling amount that it isn’t worth bothering about.

$3,300? Shit, I’d love to go on television and tell the McCain campaign "If you knuckleheads agree to just shut the hell up about this, _I’ll_ pay for the goddamn flight.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/166 "2008-10-25T01:18:28Z")

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In response to this, the Obama campaign has a special page set up to donate money in honor of 'Bama’s gramma: [http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/EightDollarsSixtyCents](http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/EightDollarsSixtyCents)

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/167 "2008-10-25T01:30:06Z")

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For the sake of accuracy, that page isn’t set up by the campaign, but by a supporter. One of the reasons the campaign has been so successful at fundraising, is that they’ve given ordinary people the opportunity to [set up their own fundraising campaigns](http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/splash/main) to encourage people to donate through them. [I have one, too](http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/JewsForBarackPart2). Theirs is genius, though. Look how much they’ve raised towards their goal!

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/168 "2008-10-25T01:37:09Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> There’s been at least three people arrested so far on suspicion of trying to assassinate Obama. How many were arrested for that while Nixon was in office? Word has it the SS is using cellphone jammers at Obama appearances because they’re worried about someone trying to get him with an IED.

If they are, it didn’t work in Philadelphia a couple of weeks ago. I phoned my neighbor and she was sort of able to hear him speechifyin’ at the Mayfair rally there.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/169 "2008-10-25T01:42:23Z")

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> [@5-4-Fighting](#):
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> If they are, it didn’t work in Philadelphia a couple of weeks ago. I phoned my neighbor and she was sort of able to hear him speechifyin’ at the Mayfair rally there.

They may only be using it at certain events. I unfortuately can’t find the news piece where I read that now, to see if it had more details.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/170 "2008-10-25T02:19:08Z")

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[Here’s where the Free Republic loons might’ve gotten their ideas.](http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-rush-limbaugh-had-to-say-about.html)

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/171 "2008-10-25T02:26:05Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> My response would have been, “Probably the same as tax payers feel, paying for Palin’s girls to stay at the Ritz Carlton for five nights when Mom goes to state events.”  
> BTW, it gets even better-the Freepers think he’s gone to there to destroy his birth certificate and then [“silence Grandma”](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2110777/posts). :rolleyes: Can that place get any loonier?

My dad just got home. I haven’t been at my parents house in awhile, and every time I do, he seems to get a little “weirder.” It also happens that he listens to Michael Savage all day.

“Obama might be an illegal. Everyone is saying that he went to Hawaii to take care of it. Why else would he leave his wife and kids?”

My mom is a teacher in elementary school. Today one of her kids told her that “it says in the Bible that if Obama gets elected, the end of the world will come.”

A few days back another little boy told her that “if Obama gets elected, blacks will declare war on whites and take over the country.”

Freepers are only people in small towns that have computers. Yes, I’m amazed that North Carolina might turn blue. Truly amazed.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/172 "2008-10-25T03:07:33Z")

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> [@ZebraShaSha](#):
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> “Obama might be an illegal. Everyone is saying that he went to Hawaii to take care of it. Why else would he leave his wife and kids?”
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> My mom is a teacher in elementary school. Today one of her kids told her that “it says in the Bible that if Obama gets elected, the end of the world will come.”
> 
> A few days back another little boy told her that “if Obama gets elected, blacks will declare war on whites and take over the country.”
> 
> Freepers are only people in small towns that have computers. Yes, I’m amazed that North Carolina might turn blue. Truly amazed.

How do you respond to that as a teacher? I mean, you can’t tell the kid his religion is wrong, or appear to be instilling your own political views, so you can’t tell him he’s wrong. What did she say?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/173 "2008-10-25T03:11:03Z")

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> [@5-4-Fighting](#):
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> And, **eleanorigby** , this is a new high of always-highs in respect that I have for you. Well said.

\<blushes. Digs toe in the rug\> I admire your posts, too. 🙂

It was heartfelt. I am sick over the way this country has conducted itself “at home” and “in public”. We all need to grow the fuck up and become the change we want to see in the world.

**Zebra** -OMG. :eek: This world makes me tired.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/174 "2008-10-25T03:14:42Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> So where on the continuum of “it’s part of the job” is flying back for depositions on her ethics investigation? Just so I can mark my scorecard…

Well, that’s the evil Dems wreaking havoc and making life difficult for poor, innocent GOPers like her, who only want no transparency or scrutiny of their actions while they’re in power. So, her mission is a noble one–to not bow her bloodied head whilst the savages er, savage her. IOW, martyr to The Cause.

> [@](#):
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> Plus, this is a first time stick poking for me–I just wanna see how the weaseling goes _this_ time. Perhaps I am not without my own goat munching tendencies after all… 😉

Make your own fun, but don’t come to me when you’re nauseated, befuddled and confused… that’s what girls get for a night of slumming. 😛😉

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/175 "2008-10-25T03:30:35Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> How do you respond to that as a teacher? I mean, you can’t tell the kid his religion is wrong, or appear to be instilling your own political views, so you can’t tell him he’s wrong. What did she say?

I’d ask the kid to find me where it says that in the Bible, but that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/176 "2008-10-25T03:34:04Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> I’d ask the kid to find me where it says that in the Bible, but that’s just me.

His parents probably penciled it in.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/177 "2008-10-25T03:38:55Z")

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> [@appleciders](#):
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> How do you respond to that as a teacher? I mean, you can’t tell the kid his religion is wrong, or appear to be instilling your own political views, so you can’t tell him he’s wrong. What did she say?

She says she said something along the lines of “that’s not possible yadda yadda,” but I didn’t ask her specifically. It was a sort of throw-away story about stuff that’s been happening lately. Stuff like that comes up often.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/178 "2008-10-25T03:41:28Z")

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Leviticus. Most of the crazy shit is in Leviticus.

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**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/179 "2008-10-25T03:46:35Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The state of Alaska will have to pay for that, since it’s part of an official investigation.

What, like the rape kits in Wasilla?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-campaign-slams-obamas-visit-to-his-grandmother/469233/180 "2008-10-25T04:24:07Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> His parents probably penciled it in.

I’d say crayon is more likely.

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