# McCain Gaffe Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 11, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582 "2008-06-11T16:14:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/1 "2008-06-11T16:14:19Z")

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I propose a thread for McCain’s gaffes. If someone wishes to start an Obama gaffe thread be my guest. Let’s start…

Sunni/Shia:  
McCain has frequently mistaken the difference between Sunni and Shia

Climate Change:

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> On Friday, McCain attacked Obama’s record on the environment during a campaign stop in the Florida Everglades.
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> “Sen. Obama has no record of being involved in this issue that I know of,” he said. “I will stick by my record and my commitment of many years to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”

Except for maybe, [this bill](http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/1/12/17937/0703) co-sponsored by McCain and Obama.  
[President Putin of Germany?](http://youtube.com/watch?v=CEVAGPVT77s)  
Troop levels:  
McCain asserts we have reduced troop levels to below [pre-surge levels](http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/30/mccain_asserts_return_to_presu.html). Not quite Senator.  
Lying about what he said:  
McCain tries to deny saying [he wasn’t an expert on the economy](http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry3754285.shtml)

McCain denies [bashing Media while praising Hillary](http://mediamatters.org/items/200806100008?f=h_latest).

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/2 "2008-06-11T16:17:15Z")

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What’s the debate here? Seems more like Pit material.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/3 "2008-06-11T16:23:53Z")

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May we add the boners committed by his campaign? If so, [this Daily Kos thread](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/11/2165/55268/106/533829) has a collection of product reviews posted on the site selling McCain campaign stuff, until someone finally noticed just what kind of comments they were and disabled the feature.

Warning: For proper monitor maintenance, clear oral cavities of all liquids before reading.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/4 "2008-06-11T16:27:16Z")

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[Stroll-Gate](http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/28/roberts-cnn-mccain-iraq/)

(McCain lies about being able to walk safely in Baghdad neighborhoods, claims Gen. Petraeus rides around in an unarmed humvee, then denies having said it)

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/5 "2008-06-11T16:28:18Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
What’s the debate here? Seems more like Pit material.  
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Fair enough, if a mod wishes to move, that’d be okely-dokely.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/6 "2008-06-11T17:51:22Z")

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One of McCain’s advisors stated yesterday that Obama’s economic plan was flawed because it did not include any tax cuts. However, Obama’s plan calls for cutting the taxes of 95% of the American people, which to be fair, is almost the same as “none”.

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**Author:** ![Plexi\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f6c823/32.png) [@Plexi\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plexi_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/7 "2008-06-11T18:10:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Frostillicus]  
However, Obama’s plan calls for cutting the taxes of 95% of the American people,  
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That cannot be true, because 34% of Americans (as of 2004, anyway), did not pay taxes.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/8 "2008-06-11T18:32:43Z")

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How 'bout when, during his speech to the Democratic electorate on the night Obama clinched, he said we have to give “hot bottled water to dehydrated babies”.

I’m still scratching my head over that.

When he mistakenly said that the media was unduly harsh on Clinton and then, two days later, mistakenly said he never said any such thing. What a funny mistake that was.

Or how he slipped up and said he was against the Confederate flag flown as a state flag but really meant the flag represents heritage and good things like that.

Then there are the biggies. Like when he said he’s for the troops and then voted against the GI bill and when he said he was against torture-- even going so far as to sponsor an anti-torture bill and then-- oopsie!-- going whole hog for Military Commissions act and against the Intelligence Authorization Act.

He’s a gaffe a minute, is McCain.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/9 "2008-06-11T18:41:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]  
He’s a gaffe a minute, is McCain.  
[/QUOTE]

So was Reagan. Don’t get cocky.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/10 "2008-06-11T18:42:06Z")

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[“I will veto every single beer.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=9894778#)

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/11 "2008-06-11T18:57:11Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
So was Reagan. Don’t get cocky.  
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Don’t worry, I keep my cock attached to my husband.

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**Author:** ![Plexi\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f6c823/32.png) [@Plexi\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plexi_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/12 "2008-06-11T19:03:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]  
Like when he said he’s for the troops and then voted against the GI bill.  
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He did not vote against it.

Cite: [U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00137)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/13 "2008-06-11T19:10:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Plexi Guy]  
He did not vote against it.

Cite: [U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00137)  
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He didn’t vote at all, but he publicly opposed it, so, same difference. He says he’s for the troops but also says that a kid who gets his legs blown off in Iraq doesn’t deserve a free education if it was his first tour.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/14 "2008-06-11T19:19:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Plexi Guy]  
He did not vote against it.

Cite: [U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 2nd Session](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00137)  
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My gaffe. He spoke against it so much I thought he put his money where is mouth was.

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**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/15 "2008-06-11T19:19:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
[“I will veto every single beer.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=9894778#)  
[/QUOTE]  
[Link to video.](http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1240)

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**Author:** ![Plexi\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f6c823/32.png) [@Plexi\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plexi_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/16 "2008-06-11T19:23:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]  
My gaffe. He spoke against it so much I thought he put his money where is mouth was.  
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Cite? The only time he said anything at all was after Obama got up on his partisan soap box and accused him of being against the troops. At which point he defended his position on supporting an alternative GI bill, which still increased the monthly benefit by 35%.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/17 "2008-06-11T19:32:31Z")

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I seem to remember that he started the green backdrop speech with “grood evening”. This is a minor, minor mis-speak and reflects not at all poorly upon the man or his accomplishments.

However- me and the gf cannot stop thinking that the phrase “grood evening” is super hilarious. The good/grood subsititution has been all over our conversation for the last week.

I remember reading in the immediate aftermath someone saying that you can’t expect good things from a speech when you start off with “Grood Evening.” It’s just so stupid and funny.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/18 "2008-06-11T19:37:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Plexi Guy]  
Cite? The only time he said anything at all was after Obama got up on his partisan soap box and accused him of being against the troops. At which point he defended his position on supporting an alternative GI bill, which still increased the monthly benefit by 35%.  
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Besides, taking a policy position can hardly be called a gaffe. If I sponsor a bill to give every returning soldier a free Porsche and a Mercedes Benz, can I say Obama isn’t “for the troops” if he votes against it?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/19 "2008-06-11T19:43:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Plexi Guy]  
Cite? The only time he said anything at all was after Obama got up on his partisan soap box and accused him of being against the troops. At which point he defended his position on supporting an alternative GI bill, which still increased the monthly benefit by 35%.  
[/QUOTE]

So you admit he claims to care about the troops but that he contradicts himself by trying to chisel them down on their benefits. He thinks that a full college education is too generous for wounded Iraq vets.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-gaffe-thread/452582/20 "2008-06-11T19:45:32Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Besides, taking a policy position can hardly be called a gaffe. If I sponsor a bill to give every returning soldier a free Porsche and a Mercedes Benz, can I say Obama isn’t “for the troops” if he votes against it?  
[/QUOTE]

It belies his claim that he gives a crap about the troops (so does his support for keeping them in Iraq at all, for that matter).

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