# McCain misquotes Hemingway

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 31, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433 "2008-10-31T15:17:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesus_Harold_Christ)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/1 "2008-10-31T15:17:07Z")

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Sorry no link.  
Dumbass McCain claims that _For Whom the Bell Tolls_ is his favorite book and then twists the meaning of one the most famous quotes by changing “fine” to “wonderful.”

I hope this costs him the election.

He sure changed my vote.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/2 "2008-10-31T15:19:55Z")

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Maybe he misread it off a Starbucks cup.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/3 "2008-10-31T15:24:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Jesus Harold Christ]  
McCain claims that _For Whom the Bell Tolls_ is his favorite book  
[/QUOTE]  
You don’t say! Who read it to him?

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/4 "2008-10-31T15:24:30Z")

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I think it’s more interesting that he’s inspired by the story of a Communist Party operative.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/5 "2008-10-31T15:26:15Z")

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I’ll be the illiterate boob to say that I have no idea what quote you’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/6 "2008-10-31T15:36:03Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’ll be the illiterate boob to say that I have no idea what quote you’re talking about.

I’ll be the left boob.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/7 "2008-10-31T15:40:08Z")

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All I can think of is:  
\*  
“The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for and I hate very much to leave it.\*”

but how **wonderful** “twists the meaning” of that beats me.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/8 "2008-10-31T15:40:32Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> I’ll be the left boob.

And me in the center. I read the book, and I still don’t know

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/9 "2008-10-31T15:41:07Z")

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“The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for.”

It’s the same quote that Morgan Freeman’s character in Se7en recites, only in the movie it’s … correct.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/10 "2008-10-31T15:52:57Z")

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> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#):
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> Sorry no link.  
> Dumbass McCain claims that _For Whom the Bell Tolls_ is his favorite book and then twists the meaning of one the most famous quotes by changing “fine” to “wonderful.”
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> I hope this costs him the election.
> 
> He sure changed my vote.

I don’t doubt it, I am just curious as to why you say it is favorite book.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/11 "2008-10-31T15:53:58Z")

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I misquoted a line from Star Wars once. I was put in a pillory for it.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/12 "2008-10-31T15:55:24Z")

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He might have been better off quoting _Eye of the Beholder_ instead:

\*Do You Fear What I Fear?  
Living Properly  
Truths to You Are Lies to Me

…

Doesn’t Matter What You See  
Or into it What You Read  
You Can Do it Your Own Way  
If It’s Done Just How I Say\*

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/13 "2008-10-31T15:56:46Z")

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I hope this OP is a jest.

I think Senator McCain has sold his soul to Satan, but really? Literature nerddom? Next people will be saying I should be banned for accidentally writing that Frodo was stabbed by a troll rather than an Orc.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/14 "2008-10-31T15:57:20Z")

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I wonder if John McCain realises that the hero of this story was fighting on the side of the communists in the Spanish Civil War.

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**Author:** ![Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@Petrobey\_Mavromihalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petrobey_Mavromihalis)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/15 "2008-10-31T16:02:16Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> But how **wonderful** “twists the meaning” of that beats me.

It’s more subtle than that, but it definitely changes the meaning. And turns a great line into merely an ok one.

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/16 "2008-10-31T16:15:38Z")

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> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#):
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> Dumbass McCain claims that _For Whom the Bell Tolls_ is his favorite book

Not _A Farewell to Arms_?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/17 "2008-10-31T16:27:47Z")

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OK, here is a [cite](http://features.csmonitor.com/books/2008/10/29/mccain-obama-share-their-favorite-books/) that McCain’s faviorite book is indeed _For Who THe Bell Tolls_ .

Obama’s, by the way, is _Song of Solomon_ by noted terrorist Toni Morrison.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/18 "2008-10-31T16:29:02Z")

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> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#):
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> Not _A Farewell to Arms_?

No, that would be Bob Dole’s.

Okay, I’m definitely going to hell.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/19 "2008-10-31T16:30:28Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> OK, here is a [cite](http://features.csmonitor.com/books/2008/10/29/mccain-obama-share-their-favorite-books/) that McCain’s faviorite book is indeed _For Who THe Bell Tolls_ .
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> Obama’s, by the way, is _Song of Solomon_ by noted terrorist Toni Morrison.

It’s “for WHOM the bell tolls.” Duh.

That’s it. I’m not voting for you either.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/20 "2008-10-31T16:35:23Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Next people will be saying I should be banned for accidentally writing that Frodo was stabbed by a troll rather than an Orc.

Heretic! Burn him!

You had to know that was coming, dude. 😃

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