# McCain misquotes Hemingway **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433 "2008-10-31T15:17:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/21 "2008-10-31T16:35:45Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > OK, here is a [cite](http://features.csmonitor.com/books/2008/10/29/mccain-obama-share-their-favorite-books/) that McCain’s faviorite book is indeed _For Who THe Bell Tolls_ . He noted, though, that the Gary Cooper movie wasn’t as good as the book and added with a chuckle, “But _For June the Pole Swells_ was a fucking masterpiece!” ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/22 "2008-10-31T16:42:34Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > He noted, though, that the Gary Cooper movie wasn’t as good as the book and added with a chuckle, “But _For June the Pole Swells_ was a fucking masterpiece!” Porn? I see tons of double entendre in that post. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/23 "2008-10-31T17:42:19Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > No, that would be Bob Dole’s. > > Okay, I’m definitely going to hell. :: checks list of people going to hell :: According to the update I got from Uncle Luci this morning, you are not yet damned and are currently destined for no worse than a brief stay in purgatory followed by an eternity of bliss, chocolate, and limber virgins of the gender and orientation best suited to your needs. I have, however, been empowered to make you an offer for your soul. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/24 "2008-10-31T17:44:32Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Porn? I see tons of double entendre in that post. 😉 What else do old, white guys have to look forward to after they’ve lost out for the most powerful position in the free world? ---
**Author:** ![regginbrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@regginbrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regginbrow)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/25 "2008-10-31T17:48:27Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > noted terrorist Toni Morrison. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/26 "2008-10-31T17:56:56Z")
> [@Hunter\_Hawk](#): > > Not _A Farewell to Arms_? I normally don’t laugh so hard at things on the Dope as to injure myself, but this got a bursting bark out of me that was a total surprise, and I think I bruised my throat. ---
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/27 "2008-10-31T21:04:59Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > It’s “for WHOM the bell tolls.” Duh. > > That’s it. I’m not voting for you either. Excellent, my friend! ---
**Author:** ![Ducktail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@Ducktail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ducktail)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/28 "2008-10-31T21:14:03Z")
Seems to me that talking about how you hate very much to leave the world isn’t the best tactic for a 72-year-old of questionable health running for office, if that is indeed the quote. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/29 "2008-10-31T21:14:57Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > but how **wonderful** “twists the meaning” of that beats me. Perhaps because Wonderful brings it closer to the use of Louis Armstrong’s What a Wonderful World in movie [Good morning, Vietnam (youtube link with clips of movie)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tl0RNuvQo)? Other than that, I got nuthin’. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/30 "2008-10-31T21:36:23Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > I misquoted a line from Star Wars once. I was put in a pillory for it. And serves you right! ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/31 "2008-10-31T21:46:59Z")
McCain’s such an idiot. I don’t listen to him anymore – especially on David Letterman when he said, “Iraq is a place which has had no stable government since Alexander The Great.” Umm…EXCUSE ME?? What about the Persian Empire? The Arabian Empire? The Ottoman Empire?? What a jerk…if he doesn’t understand the true History of the Middle East, he has no business being ANYWHERE near the White House. I sure hope he retires and moves back to Arizona soon… ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/32 "2008-10-31T21:58:18Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > McCain’s such an idiot. I don’t listen to him anymore – especially on David Letterman when he said, “Iraq is a place which has had no stable government since Alexander The Great.” Umm…EXCUSE ME?? What about the Persian Empire? The Arabian Empire? The Ottoman Empire?? What a jerk…if he doesn’t understand the true History of the Middle East, he has no business being ANYWHERE near the White House. I sure hope he retires and moves back to Arizona soon… The Persian Empire? Come on… Alexander destroyed the Persian Empire. Post Macedonian rule, it was the _Parthians_ that provided a stable government for the region. I ain’t votin’ for you, neither. ---
**Author:** ![Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Throatwarbler_Mangrove)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/33 "2008-10-31T22:05:46Z")
The one destroyed by Alexander is called the Achaemenid Empire. There was more than one Persian Empire. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/34 "2008-10-31T22:20:02Z")
Maybe McCain shouldn’t be asking for whom the bell tolls… ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/35 "2008-10-31T22:52:13Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > McCain’s such an idiot. I don’t listen to him anymore – especially on David Letterman when he said, “Iraq is a place which has had no stable government since Alexander The Great.” Umm…EXCUSE ME?? What about the Persian Empire? The Arabian Empire? The Ottoman Empire?? What a jerk…if he doesn’t understand the true History of the Middle East, he has no business being ANYWHERE near the White House. I sure hope he retires and moves back to Arizona soon… That would have been quite a gaffe if he had actually said that. ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yiI4z9h6cgA/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/yiI4z9h6cgA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque Unless you think Osama bin Laden is hiding in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/36 "2008-10-31T23:01:50Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > What else do old, white guys have to look forward to after they’ve lost out for the most powerful position in the free world? Viagra? Worked for Bob Dole. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433/37 "2008-11-01T02:01:56Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > That would have been quite a gaffe if he had actually said that. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiI4z9h6cgA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiI4z9h6cgA) > > Unless you think Osama bin Laden is hiding in Iraq. Ah, he was talking about northern Pakistan, not Iraq. My bad. :smack: Okay, that’s a little less egregious, but…it would’ve been more accurate to say “Genghis Khan” instead of “Alexander the Great”. (Good ol’ Temüjin sure made a mess of that area, didn’t he!!) But there were definitely “stable governments” (i.e. Sultanates) ruling that area between 335 B.C. and 1215 A.D., so McCain’s still a bloomin’ idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-misquotes-hemingway/470433.md?page=1)