# McCain not as forked as the McCain Forked thread, but still forked

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 8, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951 "2008-10-08T03:49:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/841 "2008-10-30T21:24:26Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> I’m not sure I understand this line from the linked piece:
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> > Wow. Chuck then wonders if her statement that she’ll release her medical records means she’s going to pull a Bullworth.

In her case, Palin’s promise to release her medical records was simply [a lie.](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/still-no-palin.html)

And this from a candidate who demanded that her mayoral opponent provide a marriage certificate to prove he was actually married back in Wasilla.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/842 "2008-10-30T21:30:16Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Florida (particularly in the panhandle) still has a lot of Dixiecrats (or did in 2000, last time I really looked at this) who are registered Democrats but vote Republican all the time.

Are local offices (mayor, city council, sheriff, etc.) still held by nominal Democrats there?

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**Author:** ![mabes10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mabes10](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mabes10)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/843 "2008-10-30T21:30:37Z")

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[http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/1241626,CST-NWS-MASK25.article](http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/1241626,CST-NWS-MASK25.article)

The election is over. Obama Halloween masks outselling McCain 54-46. 😉

BTW, here’s my Halloween costume idea, I thought of it back in '92 but have never used it (I never go to Halloween parties). Get buttons and hats and signs and scarves for all candidates. Wear/carry them all and go as an undecided voter.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/844 "2008-10-30T21:50:13Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> Apparently, things are so bad, McCain can’t even pay for [spell-checkers](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ3o0Di7Go) any more! See if you can catch it

OK, I’m a dim bulb. What am I missing?

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/845 "2008-10-30T21:50:51Z")

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I figured McShame was against busing…

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> A local school district official confirmed after the event that of the 6,000 people estimated by the fire marshal to be in attendance this morning, more than 4,000 were bused in from schools in the area. The entire 2,500-student Defiance School District was in attendance, the official said, in addition to at least three other schools from neighboring districts, one of which sent 14 buses.

Plus Joe the Dumber stood him up…  
[http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/30/1616435.aspx](http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/30/1616435.aspx)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/846 "2008-10-30T21:54:05Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> OK, I’m a dim bulb. What am I missing?

The big text EVERYBODY? is missing the a “Y”

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/847 "2008-10-30T21:55:48Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The big text EVERYBODY? is missing the a “Y”

The first one, to be precise.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/848 "2008-10-30T21:57:13Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> The big text EVERYBODY? is missing the a “Y”

Ha! Thanks for pointing it out. I make that typo all the time.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/849 "2008-10-30T21:58:16Z")

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
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> [@cricetus](#):
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> He’ll ask how the Cleveland Rams are doing.

There’s a cute ESPN piece where one of the ESPN guys did a week of fantasy football with Obama. He appears to know his football.

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[POLL: OBAMA MAINTAINS WIDE LEAD](http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/30/nytcbs-news-poll-looms/)

_NYTimes/CBS News_

Latest national poll, among likely voters:

**Obama 52, McCain 41.**  
_Dates conducted: Oct. 25-29. Error margin: 3 points._

_ **Plus:** _ ABC News/WashPost daily tracking poll finds Obama 52, McCain 44. [More here](http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=6146945&page=1).

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/852 "2008-10-30T23:37:40Z")

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Prediction: McCain people will say that Obama not getting a huge bump from the infomercial is a victory for the McCain camp.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/853 "2008-10-30T23:43:00Z")

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Do we have a plan in place to help out all the out of work pollsters that will be put out of jobs on Nov. 5th?

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/854 "2008-10-30T23:52:36Z")

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> [@Slacker](#):
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> Prediction: McCain people will say that Obama not getting a huge bump from the infomercial is a victory for the McCain camp.

It’s still too early to see what bump there might be from the informercial. Check back on Friday and Monday. By then, we’ll see for sure.

But I’m actually thinking the infomercial is mainly going to be successful as a massive GOTV. For people who like Obama, that special is a big “make sure you get out there and vote for this guy! Don’t forget!”

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/855 "2008-10-31T00:23:01Z")

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Whatever spin Team McCain wants to place the reality is that anything that further reduces the potential for McCain to control a news cycle and possibly win over some undecideds, anything that merely runs down the clock, is an Obama coup. That infomercial does more than that. Yes it will cement some marginal supporters. Yes it will help win over a few undecideds who _might_ otherwise be won over by McCain, but even if it did none of the above - staus quo is an Obama win.

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**Author:** ![Moonchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@Moonchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonchild)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/856 "2008-10-31T01:09:34Z")

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> [@mabes10](#):
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> Maybe Chris Berman can do it. McCain and Obama will be on Monday Night Football. Will he give them nicknames?

Barack “Sweet Home Al” Obama

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/857 "2008-10-31T01:14:30Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> Apparently, things are so bad, McCain can’t even pay for [spell-checkers](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ3o0Di7Go) any more! See if you can catch it

Oh my freaking God, he cited the New York fucking Post. When come back, bring shred of credibility\*.

\*Directed at the campaign, not you.

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> [@Moonchild](#):
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> Barack “Sweet Home Al” Obama

Barackin’ in the Free World Obama!

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/859 "2008-10-31T01:40:40Z")

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Joe the Plumber is a No Show at the rally!

In Defiance, Ohio (maybe it was the name).

[Joe,whereareyou?](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/mccain-camp-busses-in-sch_n_139300.html)  
I am embarrassed for McCain at this point. He needs to go away.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-not-as-forked-as-the-mccain-forked-thread-but-still-forked/466951/860 "2008-10-31T01:47:30Z")

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**Captain Carrot** , caught it.

Almost as embarrassing as his Meet the Press interview, where he had trouble naming the five former Secretaries of State who have endorsed him. He tried twice – got four of them – then dropped it, then blurted it out a minute later in the midst of another question. “George Schulz! That’s the other one!” Just like my grandpa used to do when something was on the tip of his tongue.

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