# McCain Supporter Attacked? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 23, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272 "2008-10-23T23:23:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/201 "2008-10-25T20:37:09Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > [Mandingo](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073349/)? I should hold your devil ass for ransom…(Ice Cube) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/202 "2008-10-25T21:01:18Z")
[Wow.](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08299/922849-53.stm/) > [@](#): > > In March, Ms. Todd was asked to leave a grass-roots group of Ron Paul supporters in Brazos County, Texas, group leader Dustan Costine said. He said Ms. Todd posed as a supporter of former Arkansas governor and presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and called the local Republican committee seeking information about its campaign strategies. > > “She would call the opposing campaign and pretend she was on their campaign to get information,” Mr. Costine said last night. “We had to remove her because of the tactics she displayed. After that we had nothing to do with her.” > > About a month earlier, he said, Ms. Todd sent an e-mail to the Ron Paul group saying her tires were slashed and that campaign paraphernalia had been stolen from her car because she supported Mr. Paul… > > … On her MySpace profile, where her screen name is “Italian Pajamas,” Ms. Todd gives her occupation as “Being a badass.” Next to her picture, she references the title of a song by the group Panic at the Disco: “Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths (sic) off,” but adds to it “but its (sic) better if you do.” > > Among the books she lists as favorites: “The Scarlet Letter.” Yeah. I said “Wow.” Again. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/203 "2008-10-25T21:05:30Z")
She plays like Gonzales and Mukasey. No ethics or morality. Wonder if she slept with Rove. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/204 "2008-10-25T21:10:46Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > [Wow.](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08299/922849-53.stm/)Yeah. I said “Wow.” Again. Wow, indeed. What about this, from the same story: > [@](#): > > He added that Ms. Todd showed no remorse for her actions but was angry with the media, saying they blew the story out of proportion. Unbelievable. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/205 "2008-10-25T21:15:19Z")
She’s a sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/206 "2008-10-25T21:42:25Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > She’s a sociopath. The exact term my wife used when i read the above quotes to her. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/207 "2008-10-26T01:06:53Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Are you aware that crazy people can suffer episodically, and that some of them don’t spend their lives wandering the streets in ashes and sack-cloth screaming about sperm, revelations and gravity? Likewise, are you aware that people can be mentally ill and still be responsible for their actions? ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/208 "2008-10-26T01:22:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Likewise, are you aware that people can be mentally ill and still be responsible for their actions? I’ve never suggested otherwise, and I don’t know why it keeps coming up. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/209 "2008-10-26T01:28:59Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > I’ve never suggested otherwise, and I don’t know why it keeps coming up. Because it looks like there are lots of people saying, “Oh, she’s probably mentally ill” as if that excuses her actions. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/210 "2008-10-26T01:35:12Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Because it looks like there are lots of people saying, “Oh, she’s probably mentally ill” as if that excuses her actions. > > -Joe I’ve made many posts in this thread and in the Pit today which outline my position clearly. I don’t know who these clouds of other people are, but they don’t represent me and Guin implied they did. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/211 "2008-10-26T02:08:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Among the books she lists as favorites: “The Scarlet Letter.” I guess that since the letter “A” was already used in the book, she decided to go with “B” instead. Now it all makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/212 "2008-10-26T02:18:55Z")
She’s probably more a fan of the Demi Moore movie than the book. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/213 "2008-10-27T13:27:45Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > As for how the letter B appeared on her face, but was not visible as she was perp-walked out of the police station, one of history’s great authorities on the subject [has this to say](http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26640/26640-h/26640-h.htm): > > Thanks again for [recommending this book](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484075), Harmonious Discord! The Barnum quote was very cool. There is also the interesting pathology called [dermatographism.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dermatographic_urticaria) An urticaria (hive) like reaction occurs with even light scratching. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/214 "2008-10-27T17:28:51Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > I’ve never suggested otherwise, and I don’t know why it keeps coming up. Well, that’s the impression I’m getting from you. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272/215 "2008-10-27T17:36:52Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Well, that’s the impression I’m getting from you. Show me where you got the impression and I’ll be happy to clarify. I think my posts were very explicit and don’t leave much room for the necessity of relying on ‘impressions’, so if you can show me where the miscommunication started, perhaps we can come to an understanding. In the Pit thread, [I outlined the five possibilities I see in order of likelihood](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10362108&postcount=142), and my thoughts about culpability for the pertinent ones. As you’ll see (and should have already seen as you have posted in that thread as well), in order to claim that my point has been to argue for excusing Ms. Todd from culpability under any circumstance where she’s not well, you’ll have to continue this discussion in the Pit, because you’ll have to call me a liar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporter-attacked/469272.md?page=10)