# McCain supporters:  nauseous yet?  (Falwell)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 7, 2006, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723 "2006-04-07T15:01:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723/61 "2006-04-16T00:13:36Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> How many was that, I was under the impression it was only a handful. If I’m wrong, please enlighten me.

About half the Democrats in the Senate voted against the AUMF in Oct, 2002. I think it was about the same in the House, or maybe a bit more.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723/62 "2006-04-16T12:54:57Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> How is your support for Reagan or your joining the Navy in any way related to the factual question of how many members of Congress voted for the war?

I think I am using a different definition of liberal than most people in the thread, I am not arguing at this point, I am genuinely confused. Kerry fit in my definition of liberal and the Clintons do not. Most people are telling me I am wrong and I am trying to discover why. I thought providing a little background about myself might help someone understand why I am operating with a different definition. Sorry if that was out of place.

So please let me know, who are the real liberals in the Senate, is it just Feingold?

Jim

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**Author:** ![sctrojan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@sctrojan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sctrojan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723/63 "2006-04-16T20:43:51Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> [http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/34401/](http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/34401/)
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> And, if so, will they now turn away from him in disgust?
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> I think so, myself. At least if he keeps it up. (And if he doesn’t keep it up, it will bear insufficient fruit with the religious right).

When the Senator agreed to give the commencement speech at Liberty College he lost me. A politician who believes that his or her election is the most urgent of all matters has eaten the forbidden fruit. There is, after that, no turning back.

Oslagle

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723/64 "2006-04-16T22:25:48Z")

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> [@oslagle](#):
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> A politician who believes that his or her election is the most urgent of all matters has eaten the forbidden fruit.

What makes you think you’ll ever find any other kind in office?

That is one of the incurable structural flaws of representative democracy: We end up being led and governed by people who are good at getting elected. The qualities that make that possible are not necessarily the same as the qualities of a good leader or governor.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccain-supporters-nauseous-yet-falwell/351723/65 "2006-04-16T23:39:33Z")

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To prevent any further derailment of this thread by myself, I have started this debate.  
[Who are the true liberal politicians and what defines liberal? {Please Dems only}](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7304925#post7304925)

I apologize for the disruptions,  
Jim

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