# McCain's expiration date **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248 "2008-09-25T23:42:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/21 "2008-09-26T04:20:57Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Everyone’s acting like McCain is going to keel over as soon as he’s sworn in. They’re ignoring the fact that Obama also seems to be at a high risk of death - by assassination. The first _black_ president? AND a charismatic, youthful Kennedy-esque figure, at that? There are a lot of lunatics and racists out there and they would all love to be immortalized as the “hero” who killed America’s first black president. Who’s ignoring it? It’s simply not the topic of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/22 "2008-09-26T04:26:54Z")
> [@wring](#): > > I’m not a doctor, nor do I play one on tv, but I agree w/this. Agreed, as well. Slimy politics is slimy politics, no matter which side is the originator. The end does not justify the means. That’s the way Bush thinks. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/23 "2008-09-26T05:57:43Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > There are lots of excellent reasons not to vote for McCain, and plenty to blast him for. This is the wrong avenue to choose. I find your ideas appealing and wish to distribute your literature at the airport. Or, in other words, +1. ---
**Author:** ![usar\_jag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@usar\_jag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usar_jag)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/24 "2008-09-26T06:35:09Z")
McCain’s mom is still alive. He probably comes from good breeding stock. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/25 "2008-09-26T06:45:00Z")
He’ll make it to the Rapture, and after that, what does it matter? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/26 "2008-09-26T06:45:46Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > It’s common knowledge that I am pure, unblinking, puppy-kicking kitten-drowning piglet-barbecuing evil. You lost me at piglet-barbecuing. How in the hell could that ever be evil? ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/27 "2008-09-26T06:50:21Z")
> [@usar\_jag](#): > > McCain’s mom is still alive. He probably comes from good breeding stock. And his father died at age 70 from a heart attack (McCain is now 72). His grandfather also died of a heart attack; except he was 61. So maybe he takes after his mother’s side, maybe he takes after his father’s side. Hard to say. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/28 "2008-09-26T06:58:25Z")
McCain is so old, you could figure his age by cutting off his cock and counting the rings. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/29 "2008-09-26T07:22:42Z")
You people are pathetic! This thread makes me sick! March 22, 2010. > [@Argent Towers](#): > > Everyone’s acting like McCain is going to keel over as soon as he’s sworn in. They’re ignoring the fact that Obama also seems to be at a high risk of death - by assassination. No they are not. [Kia Malone](http://www.dailybuzz.tv/) has been preachin’ that for a while now. _This_ thread is a McCain thing. And **Skald** , I’m sorely tempted to use that line as a sig. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/30 "2008-09-26T07:28:08Z")
**Warning: Partisan cite from partisan site!** Follow the video links in this [Daily Kos diary]([http://www.dailykos](http://www.dailykos) .com/storyonly/ 2008/9/25/ 123742/608/ 99/610095) and tell me if you also see a marked difference in McCain’s left eyebrow and eye between the two-week-old video and the days-ago clip. I turned off the sound in order to concentrate entirely in the visual. [Daily Kos | All Stories](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/) 2008/9/25/ 123742/608/ 99/610095 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/31 "2008-09-26T07:36:09Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > McCain is so old, you could figure his age by cutting off his cock and counting the rings. McCain is so old… … His memory is in black and white. … He has an autographed bible. … The candles cost more than the birthday cake. … That he remembers when Joe Biden was bald. … [He picks up the TV remote when the phone rings](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW6JaVgMt9A) (Letterman YouTube link) “The nice thing about Alzheimer’s is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.” --John McCain [actual quote] ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/32 "2008-09-26T14:19:19Z")
April 28, 2018 We’ve only had four presidents die of natural causes while in office, and the last one was FDR. For some reason, I can’t see that happening to McCain, but it’s just a hunch. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/33 "2008-09-26T14:41:17Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > April 28, 2018 > > We’ve only had four presidents die of natural causes while in office, and the last one was FDR. For some reason, I can’t see that happening to McCain, but it’s just a hunch. How many previous presidents would have been 76 years old by their first term was scheduled to end? On the other hand, don’t forget Woodrow Wilson: didn’t die in office but severely incapacitated, I believe. And don’t most people agree that Reagan was suffering from some symptoms of Alzheimers before he left office? Which leads me to speculate: imagine the crisis in government if McCain appeared only _partially_ incapacitated by illness. Do we force the old man to dodder on, or do we hand over the reins of government to Ms. “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring 'em to ya?” ETA: I won’t speculate on a date, that’s morbid and in ill taste. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/34 "2008-09-26T15:21:18Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > He IS going to die, you do realize that? You ARE going to die, you do realize that? I AM going to die, you do realize that? Barack Obama IS going to die, you do realize that? Steve Jobs IS going to die, you do realize that? This IS both stupid and pointless, you do realize that? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/35 "2008-09-26T15:39:43Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > You ARE going to die, you do realize that? > I AM going to die, you do realize that? > Barack Obama IS going to die, you do realize that? > Steve Jobs IS going to die, you do realize that? > > This IS both stupid and pointless, you do realize that? I didn’t notice you picking a date, either. This thread has a point. It’s to make someone look like a brilliant, prescient genius for getting the date right, when it happens. You think it would be tasteful to predict 2041? Go right ahead. I’ll link to this thread if he dies a few decades sooner, and you won’t look so prescient, maybe. But of course, it’s far safer not to speculate at all, and simply deride this thread as being tasteless, stupid, pointless, toxic, morbid, dumb, cruel, nasty, brutish and short. Okay, not short, anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/36 "2008-09-26T15:54:37Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I didn’t notice you picking a date, either. > > This thread has a point. It’s to make someone look like a brilliant, prescient genius for getting the date right, when it happens. You think it would be tasteful to predict 2041? Go right ahead. I’ll link to this thread if he dies a few decades sooner, and you won’t look so prescient, maybe. But of course, it’s far safer not to speculate at all, and simply deride this thread as being tasteless, stupid, pointless, toxic, morbid, dumb, cruel, nasty, brutish and short. Okay, not short, anymore. Hey, you were the one who put it in the pit. If you wanted everyone to follow in date picking, The Game Room would have been much more appropriate. (And for that matter, why not just use the Celebrity Death Pool anyway?) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/37 "2008-09-26T15:56:45Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > And don’t most people agree that Reagan was suffering from some symptoms of Alzheimers before he left office? Well, no. No one who ever actually examined him or interacted with him, that is. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/38 "2008-09-26T16:22:28Z")
> [@B.Serum](#): > > And his father died at age 70 from a heart attack (McCain is now 72). His grandfather also died of a heart attack; except he was 61. > > So maybe he takes after his mother’s side, maybe he takes after his father’s side. Hard to say. John McCain’s father died in 1981 at 70.2 years of age. John McCain’s grandfather died in 1945 at the age of 61.1 years of age. Life expectancy in 1981 was 71.1 and in 1945 it was 64.3 (by averaging 1940 and 1950) [cite](http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005148.html). Thus, his father lived 98.7% of life expectancy and his grandfather lived 95.0%. Life Expectancy for a white male is 75.7 years as of 2004 [cite](http://www.webmd.com/news/20060419/record-us-life-expectancy). John McCain is currently 72.1 years old or about 95.2% of life expectancy. Based on that, we can probably expect him to die in about the next two to three years. However, John McCain’s mother is still alive and active at the age of 96.6. AFAICT, he has two siblings, one older and one younger, and both are still alive as well. So, I’d think his mother’s longevity also has a distinct impact that would extend his life significantly beyond what we may expect based on his paternal lineage. Now,I’d think that the primary impact of his POW experience was stress, which would subtract a little from his life expectancy. I think the largest impact on his life would be how much stress he undertakes as president; however, I think that’s also somewhat offset by the quality of medical care that is available to the president. So, I’d guess that he could easily live to about 78-80. So, I’d give him about a 95% chance of surviving a single term of presidency, but more like a 50% chance of surviving a second. And, just for S&G, I’ll guess he’ll die on November 11, 2015. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/39 "2008-09-26T16:26:44Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > You lost me at piglet-barbecuing. How in the hell could that ever be evil? Live piglets, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248/40 "2008-09-26T17:22:26Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Arizona will be a far better place the day McCain stops representing the state in the US Senate. Let him lose the presidential election and then resign from the Senate. Amen, neighbor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mccains-expiration-date/465248.md?page=3)