# McDonald's has just lost a Big Mac fan once and for all.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420 "2003-10-09T03:59:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/21 "2003-10-09T09:30:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kung fu lola \*  
> \*\*Watch your mouth, honeybunch.
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> ~ kfl, Happily pseudo-married to a Shift Super at Wendy’s for 9 months, and counting. \*\*

Consider it watched. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/22 "2003-10-09T09:34:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KGS \*  
> \*\*Wendy’s, huh? Whatever you do, don’t go to the new Wendy’s on Ventura & Fallbrook. I’ve been there four times and it’s ALWAYS been a pain. \*\*

Wasn’t that a McDonalds about a year ago? Maybe they hired the same staff?

I support **Airman** ’s decision. It’s not what I would do (I would boycott that store only), but I think ‘voting with your dollar’ will get the message across. McDonalds, IMO, is in a death spiral anyway. I want a fucking salad, I won’t want to get it from McDonalds, fer chrissakes. They shoulda stuck to what they were good at.  
Although I must admit they make a mighty tasty sausage biscuit sandwich…

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/23 "2003-10-09T09:45:25Z")

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I had a Burger King “Pepperjack Stack” the other day, and I can happily say that if they continue this line, I will never darken the door of McD’s ever again.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/24 "2003-10-09T10:16:23Z")

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I’m not sure how far around the country Fazolli’s has gotten but I’ve eaten at two of them, one in western Michigan, one in northern Ohio. Both places had great food, low prices and great service.

My wife’s cousin and her boyfriend insist they’ll never go there again. They ate at the one in Flint Michigan.

My response… “Well it was in Flint”

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/25 "2003-10-09T11:01:42Z")

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I’m with Airman on the boycott, but with QED on the scope of it. Almost every McDonald’s is owned by franchise holders. Those owners are the source of the shit-flows-downhill mountain. Just go to a different McDonald’s that is owned by a different enterprise. The comparisons can be downright startling.

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**Author:** ![Gest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Gest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gest)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/26 "2003-10-09T11:25:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \*  
> \*\*Sounds like you need to go have a little heart-to-heart chat with that McD’s manager. You DID get a description and possibly the name of the offender? \*\*

It’s just that they all look the same those _boyz_ from _da hood_. Best to just take it to an anonymous internet message board instead.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/27 "2003-10-09T11:37:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SkyBum \*  
> \*\*This is kind of off-topic but I know a person who is 48 years old and has never eaten a single McDonalds item (or Wendy’s or Burger King for that matter).
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> Astonishing really…that makes him one of a very small minority. \*\*

That’s nothing. I met a girl a few years back who had never eaten mustard. She never saw any of the Star wars movies either, but even that doesn’t compare to the no mustard thing.

I told her she was insane and walked off.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/28 "2003-10-09T11:39:54Z")

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Incompetence at a McDonald’s? I am shocked! Shocked!

I am also in the midst of a personal boycott of McDonald’s. I’m not surprised by crappy and stupid service, but back in the spring, I went through the drive through, and discovered that I had not recieved what I had ordered. That wasn’t the first time, but when I called in, the person taking the call was rude and unhelpful. I suggested that she pay attention to what the hell she was doing, and hung up. After thinking about it, I decided to call back and talk to the manager. I got the same person, who yells to the manager “It’s him!” The manager was only slightly less abrasive.

I tried to report this on their corporate web site, but they have a relatively long and involved process that requires so much personal information that I wasn’t sure if it was a complaint mechanism or a collection of demographic information mechanism.

So, I say good on ya, **Airman**. There are alternatives!

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/29 "2003-10-09T11:47:57Z")

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Far be it from me to talk someone _in_to eating at McDonalds, but I’m wondering if the drive thru mechanism was out of order? It may be that the kid never even knew you were there. Though I must say that encountering a McEmployee who doesn’t give a shit is far more likely.

And I think you’re doing the right thing.🙂

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/30 "2003-10-09T11:49:41Z")

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I’ve given up on both McDonald’s and Burger King. McDonald’s because…well, they’re awful. Burger King because the quality of their meat seems to have taken a nosedive over the last few years. I honestly think they just spray wet sponges with “meat scent” (must come in a can or something) and serve them to you. Awful.

Wendy’s all the way.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/31 "2003-10-09T13:01:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SkyBum \*  
> \*\*This is kind of off-topic but I know a person who is 48 years old and has never eaten a single McDonalds item (or Wendy’s or Burger King for that matter).
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> Astonishing really…that makes him one of a very small minority. \*\*

Was this person named [Herb?](http://www.geocities.com/conspiracyprime/e2_wheresherb.htm) 😃

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/32 "2003-10-09T13:11:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MikeG \*  
> \*\*Bloody eejits…and their food is crap, why would I buy a Big Mac when I can go down the street and get a fantastic al carbon taco, or an incredible plate of chicken biryani for less money !!! \*\*

If I could get chicken biryani at a place for less than a buck 99, I’d be eating at that place every freakin’ day! Where is that place?

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**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/33 "2003-10-09T13:11:11Z")

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**World Eater** , mustard makes me physically ill to be too near. Seriously. I have a total aversion to the stuff. This is one reason I never ever get burgers at fast food places, as I know damn well the people putting the burgers together have been near the mustard. Even proximity is enough to bug me. So I’ve never eaten it either.

I have, however, seen the Star Wars movies. Even the last two. I’m almost morbidly curious about the next one – can it suck even more?

I don’t eat anything at McDonald’s except for the rare sausage biscuit (and not at all since I got hooked on Chick Fil A’s chicken biscuits, which I don’t eat often because I’d weigh 300 pounds) or an order of fries and a Coke for a snack. I hate their food.

It IS possible to not eat there, people.

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**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/34 "2003-10-09T13:11:37Z")

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Just FYI- McDonalds is now serving cheesesteaks in Philly. Yuck-o.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/35 "2003-10-09T13:18:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterabbit \*  
> \*\ ***World Eater** , mustard makes me physically ill to be too near. Seriously. I have a total aversion to the stuff. This is one reason I never ever get burgers at fast food places, as I know damn well the people putting the burgers together have been near the mustard. Even proximity is enough to bug me. So I’ve never eaten it either.
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> I have, however, seen the Star Wars movies. Even the last two. I’m almost morbidly curious about the next one – can it suck even more?
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> I don’t eat anything at McDonald’s except for the rare sausage biscuit (and not at all since I got hooked on Chick Fil A’s chicken biscuits, which I don’t eat often because I’d weigh 300 pounds) or an order of fries and a Coke for a snack. I hate their food.
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> It IS possible to not eat there, people. \*\*

Well that makes fine sense to me. IIRC, the other girl just never had gotten around to trying it. She was 25 or so btw.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/36 "2003-10-09T13:19:55Z")

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McDonalds: the only vegan fast food restaurant.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/37 "2003-10-09T13:31:14Z")

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Well, the strength of any business lies in the training given to the employees and the enforcement of standards by management. It seems that the franchisee that owns the Mickey D’s **Airman** visited is slack, but another franchisee might not be.

That said, I am glad **Airman** is boycotting McDonald’s. They serve tasteless, poisonous crap that should not be taken internally, as does every other fast food hamburger joint.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/38 "2003-10-09T13:55:17Z")

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McDonalds is starting a diet menu in NY. Heard it on the radio yesterday.

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**Author:** ![AV8R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@AV8R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AV8R)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/39 "2003-10-09T14:05:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by slortar \*  
> \*\*I’ve given up on both McDonald’s and Burger King. … Burger King because the quality of their meat seems to have taken a nosedive over the last few years. … \*\*

A few months ago I asked an employee of BK if they changed how they cook the burgers. She said that they moved to a “phase 2” kitchen, which involves microwaving the burger after it’s been grilled. She admitted that the burgers weren’t as good, but that was the rule, and they weren’t allowed to skip the microwave even if the customer requested it.  
I used to really like BK burgers. Now I only go there for the fish.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcdonalds-has-just-lost-a-big-mac-fan-once-and-for-all/206420/40 "2003-10-09T14:13:44Z")

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**airman** , as angry as you are, I’m glad to see you landing on your feet. Wendy’s food tastes So Much Better than McDonalds that its not even funny. Even the fries are better (and the last good thing going for McD’s was their fries).

I’ve never had a bad Wendy’s Classic. But I’ve had McDonalds burgers that I’ve had to throw out because they were so foul.

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