# MCU Scarlet Witch vs 20th Century FOX Jean Grey **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565 "2023-11-04T03:48:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EnolaStraight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@EnolaStraight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnolaStraight)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/1 "2023-11-04T03:48:20Z")
If they had to fight each other, which MARVEL sorceress would win? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/2 "2023-11-04T03:59:13Z")
Jean Grey isn’t a sorceress. I haven’t seen _Dark Phoenix_ and have only seen _Wandavision_ and not the weird physician movie with her in it, so I’m not sure of their respective power levels there. But comic-wise, I think I’d go with Wanda. All she would have to do is mutter “No more Phoenix” and it would be over. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/3 "2023-11-04T05:31:32Z")
With my 80s knowledge of comic books it’s Dark Phoenix over Scarlet Witch. Movie Scarlet Witch is kind of muddled. She’s not a mutant because they didn’t exist in the MCU. Her powers weren’t very well defined. Then lately she became so over powered she was basically a god. Jean was just a very powerful telepath and telekinetic. So movie Wanda over Jean. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/4 "2023-11-04T05:51:20Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Then lately she became so over powered she was basically a god. She was like that in the comics, too. [https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/today-in-marvel-history-no-more-mutants](https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/today-in-marvel-history-no-more-mutants) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/5 "2023-11-04T06:25:37Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > She was like that in the comics, too. Well, if we’re dragging comics versions into this, didn’t comics Dark Phoenix literally destroy a star? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mcu-scarlet-witch-vs-20th-century-fox-jean-grey/992565/6 "2023-11-04T11:20:30Z")
But Wanda could probably say “Stars are made of marzipan now.”. > **[When Scarlet Witch said "No more mutants.", did it only affect the Main...](https://www.quora.com/When-Scarlet-Witch-said-No-more-mutants-did-it-only-affect-the-Main-Earth-616-universe)** > > Answer (1 of 7): Hello! > > NO, the “No More Mutants” spell by The Scarlet Witch affected the whole Marvel Multiverse. That is proven by many instances in Post HOM comics. Wanda during House of M had powers which suprasses even of the beyonders so it's...