# MD sex offernders will have to post "NO CANDY AT THIS RESIDENCE" signs on Halloween

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**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086 "2008-10-15T20:24:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/21 "2008-10-16T02:22:42Z")

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> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> I’ve done some more research into the Maryland sex offender registry. As far as I can tell, you can’t get on it just by having gay sex or flashing people. And BDSM porn will only get you on it if it depicts minors.
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> See for yourself:  
> [http://dpscs.md.gov/aboutdpscs/FAQcjis.shtml#sor](http://dpscs.md.gov/aboutdpscs/FAQcjis.shtml#sor)

I noticed in the link provided that anyone who was required to register as a sex offender in another state who moves to Maryland is also required to register in Maryland, and it doesn’t seem to make an exception for people who committed crimes which are not subject to Maryland registration (although I may have missed if it says that).

Which leads to another question: How consistent are crimes requiring sex offender registration from state to state?

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/22 "2008-10-16T02:43:14Z")

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Gosh, why be subtle? Why not just make them post a sign that says “Child rapist lives here”?

I realize that the idea of convicted pedophiles handing out candy to children on Hallowe’en is morbidly ironic, but that’s for pedophiles. What about the poor schlub who got caught pissing in the gutter outside the bar one night? Let’s face it, folks, sex offender registration is an unfair and illogical stigmatization based on puritanical hysteria. This in the same country that offers an uncountable number of websites featuring nubile females spreading their legs to display their hairless genitals! Trick or treat, indeed!

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/23 "2008-10-16T11:20:41Z")

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> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> I’ve done some more research into the Maryland sex offender registry. As far as I can tell, you can’t get on it just by having gay sex or flashing people. And BDSM porn will only get you on it if it depicts minors.

As said, that doesn’t account for people getting convicted out of state. And since BDSM ( or other ) porn over the Internet crosses state lines, you can end up getting hauled to and convicted in an entirely different state, for violating THEIR “community standards”. A Californian named Paul F. Little just got dragged all the way to Florida and convicted ( about 4 years in prison for “obscenity” ) for just that reason.

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/24 "2008-10-16T13:32:42Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I’m strongly against this. Not all sex offenders are pedophiles, for Og’s sake.

No, and the article mentions that the signs will be going to violent and child offenders, I wonder what the ratio is.

It’s just a dumb idea though.

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**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/25 "2008-10-16T13:45:39Z")

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They have to stay home?

Weird. No going to the movies or a bar and avoiding the kids altogether. No you stay home and turn off all your lights.

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**Author:** ![Cub\_Mistress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@Cub\_Mistress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cub_Mistress)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/26 "2008-10-16T14:20:08Z")

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> [@FilmGeek](#):
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> They have to stay home?
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> Weird. No going to the movies or a bar and avoiding the kids altogether. No you stay home and turn off all your lights.

It does sound weird at first, but I think it has to do with Halloween costumes being unremarkable that night and the danger of a sex offender committing crimes under cover of a costume.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/27 "2008-10-16T14:30:48Z")

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Perhaps they should think about setting fire to the sex offender’s homes while they are inside on Halloween. It will certainly keep the kiddies away and what ghastly ghostly stories they will have to tell their younger brothers and sisters on Halloweens yet to come, “Let me tell you about the creepy old guy around the corner. In 2008…”

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/28 "2008-10-16T19:33:04Z")

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This is completely frigging ridiculous. It’s completely punitive, and I seriously doubt there’s any chance that it’ll keep kids safer. It just seems like a way to keep people whipped into a frenzy and convince paranoid parents that the state is doing something to keep their children safe, even if it’s a waste of effort.

[QUOTE=Patrick McGee, Director of the Maryland Division of Parole and Probation]  
“…In addition, you will also protect yourself from misunderstandings and the allegations that may arise from them.”  
[/quote]

I’m sure having to put a big orange pumpkin that identifies someone as a sex offender is really protecting them. I mean, they already have to register so that anyone who wants to find out what offenders are in the neighborhood can do so; why not stop there? I also don’t understand how the system can get away with essentially putting people under house arrest if they’ve already done their time; is this something they’re doing as a term of their parole?

If I were even remotely convinced that this was being restricted a risky group and was at all likely to result in safer trick or treating, I wouldn’t think it was so stupid.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/29 "2008-10-16T20:16:13Z")

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It’s appalling. For all of the reasons stated above and more.

Do other states prohibit registered sex offenders from giving out candy?

ETA: I’m inquiring about the giving out candy part, not the giant pumpkin sign part.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/30 "2008-10-16T20:28:41Z")

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I’m pretty sure I read that Tennessee prohibits sex offenders from giving out candy, decorating their houses for Halloween, or wearing costumes.

Here’s a [link](http://starpolice.blogspot.com/2006/10/special-halloween-rules-for-tn-sex.html) thoough the original link to the Tennessean newspaper is broken.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/31 "2008-10-16T21:01:15Z")

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I find this thread very heartening. For some reason, I had suspected there would be a lot more “Think of the children! Prison rape’s too good for sex offenders!”-type comments of kneejerk support, even here on the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/32 "2008-10-16T21:10:30Z")

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> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#):
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> Why the heck do they associate a jack o lantern with sex offenders. That ruins decorations with pictures of jack o lanterns. They need to just post plain signs or some made up symbol.

How about a smiling priest?

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/33 "2008-10-16T21:17:28Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> I find this thread very heartening. For some reason, I had suspected there would be a lot more “Think of the children! Prison rape’s too good for sex offenders!”-type comments of kneejerk support, even here on the SDMB.

I’m kind of surprised that there haven’t been _any_ comments from that side of the issue.

I, for one, am conflicted on the matter.

I remember from when I was living in Iowa that they had enacted a rule that convicted sex offenders couldn’t live within something like 2000 feet of a school. Then they had to rework the law because it turned out there was virtually nowhere for them to live under that restriction. It was pushing a lot of them into vagrancy and actually making them harder for the state to keep track of.

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/34 "2008-10-16T22:04:31Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> How about a smiling priest?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Run!!!

😃

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/35 "2008-10-16T22:19:02Z")

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I wonder where I can get one of those signs? Because there’s a guy, a real asshole, he requested that I call him professionally, then he was vulgar and abusive to me over the phone, including suggesting that he would like to find out where I lived so he could come over and rape my wife. I have his address, I’d like to get my hands on one of these signs and go post it in front of his house Halloween night. Just so his neighbors could see it.

I’d like to but I won’t. Damn, the temptation is strong, though. Hmmmm. Another reason this is a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![WF\_Tomba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d9b06d/32.png) [@WF\_Tomba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WF_Tomba)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/36 "2008-10-16T22:22:38Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> I wonder where I can get one of those signs? Because there’s a guy, a real asshole, he requested that I call him professionally, then he was vulgar and abusive to me over the phone, including suggesting that he would like to find out where I lived so he could come over and rape my wife. I have his address, I’d like to get my hands on one of these signs and go post it in front of his house Halloween night. Just so his neighbors could see it.
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> I’d like to but I won’t. Damn, the temptation is strong, though. Hmmmm. Another reason this is a bad idea.

It would actually be easy enough to make a replica . . .

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/37 "2008-10-16T22:48:55Z")

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> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> It would actually be easy enough to make a replica . . .

NO CANDY, GERITOL, EMBALMING FLUID, MILK BONZ, FANCY FEAST, OR SALT LICKS AT THIS RESIDENCEa

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/38 "2008-10-17T02:29:08Z")

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What if they actually _do_ have candy at their residence. Isn’t that lying to the children? Why won’t anyone think about the children?

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/39 "2008-10-17T06:00:17Z")

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Come to think, that sign makes no fucking sense at all. Kids too young to read will only see a pumpkin, and parents who stand at the corner while their little ghouls pester the neighbors will be standing too far away to read it. Somebody really should have thought this one through, just for functionality’s sake if nothing else.

> [@WF\_Tomba](#):
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> I remember from when I was living in Iowa that they had enacted a rule that convicted sex offenders couldn’t live within something like 2000 feet of a school. Then they had to rework the law because it turned out there was virtually nowhere for them to live under that restriction.

Same kind of law was passed here in CA a few years ago. Our state supreme court threw it out once everyone realized how stupid an idea it was.

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**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/md-sex-offernders-will-have-to-post-no-candy-at-this-residence-signs-on-halloween/468086/40 "2008-10-17T06:44:21Z")

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It seems a little silly to me. Sex offender not equaling child molester to me.

Regardless, it will be my house that hands out the king size Butterfingers this year.

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