# Me and my big yap -or- fun on suicide watch **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 3, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404 "2017-07-03T01:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/21 "2017-07-03T19:41:13Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > If you make such jokes, they force you to take antidepressant drugs. Which make you suicidal for real. For the vast majority of people, they do the exact opposite. As you’d know if you paid the slightest bit of attention to the actual science rather than clickbait headlines. I hope you’re feeling better and getting the help you need, **dropzone**. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/22 "2017-07-03T19:49:20Z")
The important thing is that you’re still here and working your way through it. I wish for your worst days behind you and better days ahead. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/23 "2017-07-03T19:49:51Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Dropzone, I know you didn’t want to be in the hospital on suicide watch, but…maybe that’s where you needed to be? > > I wasn’t there, but you’re legitimately in trouble and need help. Maybe the hospital wasn’t the actual help you needed, or the help you wanted, but maybe it was better than no help. I’m seeing the framework of a song in there. You should think about putting that in the form of lyrics. **dropzone** : Get well. Let the professionals help you. You probably knew what you were doing when you sought out help. ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/24 "2017-07-03T19:50:10Z")
Sending good thoughts your way. I’m sorry you’re dealing with a horrible loss on top of addiction issues, it shows a lot of courage that you are seeking help (no matter how it came about). Hang in there, DZone. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/25 "2017-07-03T19:50:53Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > For the vast majority of people, they do the exact opposite. As you’d know if you paid the slightest bit of attention to the actual science rather than clickbait headlines. Anti-depressants don’t by and large ‘‘cause suicide.’’ The problem, and I have experienced this personally, is if you are severely depressed, antidepressants can give you something you don’t normally have when you’re depressed:\* the energy to do something drastic. - It usually takes 4-6 weeks for antidepressants to kick in completely, but in the short-term, they might lift the fatigue without helping with the negative cognitions. Which means that during that short window of time, you may be more likely to act on your feelings of hopelessness. On the flip side, quitting antidepressants cold turkey is one of the most dangerous things a depressed person can do. When I had my seizures, I was made to quit Wellbutrin cold turkey, and it damned near killed me. I’m somewhat horrified those meds were kept from you, **dropzone.** ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/26 "2017-07-03T20:46:05Z")
I’d echo your _somewhat horrified_ \*\*Spice Weasel \*\*, the idea of going cold turkey on antidepressants while dealing with the emotional trauma **dropzone** has had sounds like an excellent recipe for actually pushing someone to harm themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/27 "2017-07-03T23:23:40Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Anti-depressants don’t by and large ‘‘cause suicide.’’ The problem, and I have experienced this personally, is if you are severely depressed, antidepressants can give you something you don’t normally have when you’re depressed:\* the energy to do something drastic. The irony is that what is happening is the anti-depressant is actually _working_. The reason you have the energy to do something drastic is because your depression is lifted just enough that you aren’t completely floored by it. But not enough to relieve symptoms. (I’m sure you already know this, I wasn’t addressing you individually). ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/28 "2017-07-04T02:31:25Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > The irony is that what is happening is the anti-depressant is actually _working_. The reason you have the energy to do something drastic is because your depression is lifted just enough that you aren’t completely floored by it. But not enough to relieve symptoms. > > (I’m sure you already know this, I wasn’t addressing you individually). I find this to be analogous to how Air France 447’s stall warning went silent when the plane was at its most dangerous state (the computer figured “these inputs can’t be right”), then came blaring on again when the pilot started to do the right thing (computer: “oh, this really is a stall”), encouraging the pilot to go back to doing the WRONG thing. (Hey, I just read Hofstadter and Sander’s _Analogies_ – so sue me.) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/29 "2017-07-04T02:45:06Z")
Dropzone, I’m sorry for your troubles and I hope you can see your way through this dark time in your life. Take Care. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/30 "2017-07-04T04:03:43Z")
Hang in there! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/31 "2017-07-04T04:08:50Z")
**Dropzone** now we know where you’ve been. I hope you’ll come back and tell us how you’re doing. I know things are hard right now. Please keep us posted. Best wishes. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/32 "2017-07-04T04:19:31Z")
I am sorry to hear you were clapped up without your Prozac. I once (stupidly) went cold turkey off of it, and I do NOT recommend the experience. Hopefully you are back on, levelled out a bit and managed to stay out of the bottle. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/33 "2017-07-05T01:38:09Z")
I was just (May 1) released form “Psych Hold”. always fun (this is number 2 - first was 2005 in SF). No pain meds (I had Acute Renal Failure in Feb.); no sleep meds. I have both osteoarthritis (bone-on-bone pain) and chronic insomnia requiring medication. The psych hold was over my reservation of right to die at a time.place/method of my choosing. They didn’t understand that this was a lifelong mindset. I will not “linger” and I will not suffer needlessly. They assumed it was a new thought triggered by the illness - pulse of 37 is NOT a way to live. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/34 "2017-07-05T20:36:56Z")
Well, that was a change of pace. After work on Monday I’m told I had a seizure at the grocery. Slipped to the ground and banged up ribs and my forehead. Got all of my meds. Got thrown out after two days. My life is too dramatic for my tastes, but I’ve lost lots of weight. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/35 "2017-07-05T20:50:59Z")
Have you had seizures before? I’m not a doctor, but aren’t seizures a common symptom of alcohol withdrawal? In any case, hoping you’re getting some real non-perfunctory medical help. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/36 "2017-07-05T20:59:35Z")
Only when withdrawing. MRI last year, CT in hospital, EEG Saturday. But that’s the thing: if I really were suicidal I wouldn’t take such “good” care of myself. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/37 "2017-07-05T21:13:42Z")
Best wishes, **dropzone**. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/38 "2017-07-05T21:42:23Z")
Sorry to hear about the seizure. I hope the crap lets up a little for you soon. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/39 "2017-07-06T01:01:02Z")
Oh, **dropzone**!! ☹ I’m glad you’re taking care of yourself. Man! Was a cause of the seizure determined? Meds withdrawal? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404/40 "2017-07-06T13:20:43Z")
I had been back on my meds for a couple days, but not long enough to build up levels. ETA: My PCP will get an earful this afternoon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/me-and-my-big-yap-or-fun-on-suicide-watch/790404.md?page=3)