# Mea Culpa: George Zimmerman case **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858 "2012-06-11T23:32:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/21 "2012-06-12T14:54:17Z")
If that’s all you want, start one in MPSIMS asking for advice about adopting furry animals. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/22 "2012-06-12T16:12:32Z")
He’s entitled to the presumption of innocence as far as I’m concerned. I’m troubled deeply by the accusations, because he appears to have rushed into something he should definitely have avoided and a boy is dead. I’ll go with what the jury or juries have to say. I say juries because he could also be tried in federal court for civil rights violations. That could result in a guilty and a not guilty verdict. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/23 "2012-06-12T16:23:52Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > The multipage odds go up if you assert that Zimmerman has a declawed cat that he lets go out, and that he texts spoilers about Game of Thrones while running bicyclists off the road with his SUV. Did you hear Zimmerman runs a website on circumcision? Offers an at-home kit for do-it-yourselfers even. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/24 "2012-06-12T16:28:35Z")
Hitler was misunderstood. Cats are stupid. Little kids should be gagged. Bicycles are a menace. The gold standard will come back and the US will go bankrupt. There’s no such thing as an Austrian. You cannot fuck a paper towel roll and no one has ever been molested. eta: Rape ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/25 "2012-06-12T22:43:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I bet you’ll feel _really_ silly if he’s convicted, and future you has to apologize to past you for present you. Man, I just don’t want to be here when Past Him tries to calm Future Him down, as Future Him is trying to beat Present Him with the butt of a non-functioning-because-we-haven’t-have-Pre-Tesla-Aether-Energy-since-the-1920s Death Ray, that he got from Way Past Him, while Future Him’s Future Grandkids in hoodies ask why they can’t just get along… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/26 "2012-06-12T23:01:44Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Man, I just don’t want to be here when Past Him tries to calm Future Him down, as Future Him is trying to beat Present Him with the butt of a non-functioning-because-we-haven’t-have-Pre-Tesla-Aether-Energy-since-the-1920s Death Ray, that he got from Way Past Him, while Future Him’s Future Grandkids in hoodies ask why they can’t just get along… He’ll be the man who scolded himself! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/27 "2012-06-12T23:10:49Z")
On the other hand, if his grandfather comes out of the time machine and kills him, there is no paradox problem. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/28 "2012-06-13T00:42:43Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > He’s entitled to the presumption of innocence as far as I’m concerned. That’s all I’m trying to say. Yes, that only applies _in_ the courts, but that also doesn’t mean I have license to say whatever I please without thinking. I should judge on all the evidence… much of which was too early to say, much of which turned out to be ambiguous. If anyhere thinks Zimmerman is guilty, then so be it. I cannot in good conscience say that I’m certain either way. I can in better conscience say that I ought not to have judged so rashly. Oh, and I declawed my cat and ride my bike on the street AND the sidewalk with my declawed cat on a leash. And he’s a male cat but I still named him _Fluffy_. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/29 "2012-06-13T00:58:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > He’ll be the man who scolded himself! That was a crime in 14 states until those damn liberal justices threw all the good laws out in the '60s. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/30 "2012-06-13T01:00:58Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > That’s all I’m trying to say. Yes, that only applies _in_ the courts, but that also doesn’t mean I have license to say whatever I please without thinking. … Of course you do – this is the SDMB! You’re better at it than most. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/31 "2012-06-13T01:35:17Z")
There’s plenty of information to judge Zimmerman as a lying fool. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/32 "2012-06-13T02:18:06Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] If anyhere thinks Zimmerman is guilty, then so be it. I cannot in good conscience say that I’m certain either way. I can in better conscience say that I ought not to have judged so rashly. [/QUOTE] This is going to sound really mean coming out of my keyboard, but your opinion one way or the other is of such zero consequence that I really have to wonder if this thread isn’t just some non-elaborate ploy for attention. Some of us have been in marathon discussions about Zimmerman for almost 4 months now and honestly, this is the first time I’ve seen your username connected to the subject. What are you looking for here? Did you think we’ve all been waiting on the edge of our seats, wondering what your latest thoughts are in this case? It’s like starting a thread to apologize for farting in an empty room. We don’t care if you rushed to judgement or not. If you really wanted to flagellate yourself over this in a sincere, non attention-whoring manner, you’d have done so in one of the eleventy other threads we already have on this subject. Goddamn it, the end. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/33 "2012-06-13T02:20:34Z")
Pot. Meet Kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/34 "2012-06-13T03:17:02Z")
I haven’t posted in any Zimmerman/Trayvon threads, so my opinion must _really_ count. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/35 "2012-06-13T03:54:03Z")
Until now, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/36 "2012-06-13T11:30:17Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > There’s plenty of information to judge Zimmerman as a lying fool. Indeed. Fortunately, he can’t be convicted of murder on the grounds of being a lying fool. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/37 "2012-06-13T11:53:16Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > The multipage odds go up if you assert that Zimmerman has a declawed cat that he lets go out, and that he texts spoilers about Game of Thrones while running bicyclists off the road with his SUV. If you really want a multi-page thread, there’s one way to do it. First, get a paper towel tube. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/38 "2012-06-13T13:15:35Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Hitler was misunderstood. > Cats are stupid. > Little kids should be gagged. > Bicycles are a menace. > The gold standard will come back and the US will go bankrupt. > There’s no such thing as an Austrian. > You cannot fuck a paper towel roll and no one has ever been molested. > > eta: Rape Rape Month isn’t until February. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/39 "2012-06-13T15:11:48Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Oh, and I declawed my cat and ride my bike on the street AND the sidewalk with my declawed cat on a leash. And he’s a male cat but I still named him _Fluffy_. “Fluffy”? At least you didn’t name him “[Pinky](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU_b0eZmEnQ)”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858/40 "2012-06-13T15:17:58Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Until now, of course. D’oh! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mea-culpa-george-zimmerman-case/624858.md?page=3)