# Meat Loaf is in the Rear View Mirror Now **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** celebrity-death, music\ **Created:** [January 21, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162 "2022-01-21T08:53:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/81 "2022-01-22T21:14:32Z")
70 times is when I lost count. Eddie was my personal favorite. He totally owned the show during that number. I’d first encountered Meatloaf when he appeared on SNL. I quickly picked up his single, Two Out of Three Ain’t Bad, the next time I went to Harmony Hut. I was not a great fan of Bat Out of Hell, but I never denied the great talent of the man who was 2 parts rock and roller and 3 parts opera singer. Very sorry he’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/82 "2022-01-22T21:26:40Z")
I thought this was nice: > **['Stop Right There!': Foley recalls epic duet with Meat Loaf](https://apnews.com/article/meat-loaf-entertainment-business-health-arts-and-entertainment-0b6b5a634fa9e9ae1355003d97de8ce2)** > > NEW YORK (AP) — “Stop Right There!” Three words of warning — and three words that Ellen Foley credits with launching her career in music. It was Foley who belted out the words to Meat Loaf about halfway through their eight-and-a-half minute duet... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/83 "2022-01-22T22:20:08Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > A long time ago I lived in Tallahassee, Florida. I was the only working, full-time freelance stagehand in the entire city so I worked at a lot of different places. One of those places was The Moon (formerly The Musical Moon (formerly a Winn-Dixie grocery store)), where I did the lighting. > > As a life-long Tally resident and frequent attendee at The Moon I would like to thank you for this story (and note that it was an old A&P, not a Winn-Dixie 🤣 ). You’re welcome, of course; always great to share a good story. Was it an A&P? Ah, well; _mea culpa_. The conversion to a nightclub happened before I got to Tallahassee altho it was still the Musical Moon for a few years while I was there. I saw and worked many, many great shows in that venue. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/84 "2022-01-22T22:25:04Z")
Having exactly no dogs in this fight, but enjoying a good Google … > GENERAL NOTE - Formerly an A&P grocery store. Now known simply as The Moon. [**SOURCE**](https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/113229) ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/85 "2022-01-22T23:07:03Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I saw and worked many, many great shows in that venue. Yeah, it was an A&P. I knew that because there was something that only A&P carried when I was a kid (cannot for the life of me remember what) and, every so often, Mom would take me there to get it. The Moon has had some amazing stuff there for a small venue. I did find this earlier today: [A listing of every public event the Moon has held.](https://drive.google.com/file/d/16pDGoX3Tx5b8UqyDRg6yYH1TawAvkc0P/view) Meat Loaf did 2 shows there: 9/22/89 and 11/10/90. Alas, I somehow missed both of them. > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Having exactly no dogs in this fight, but enjoying a good Google … That’s a great find! I haven’t been back inside since COVID and the major renovation in 2020… ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/86 "2022-01-22T23:36:42Z")
It was a loooooong time ago but I’d swear it was '92 that my story took place. I wasn’t working there in '89 although I might have been in '90 (I left school in the summer of 1990). When I have access to my old pocket notebooks I can check for sure tho; for years I wrote down every gig and my hours in little 1-year pocket notebooks and I still have them. ETA: that list is fun. The Ramones show in '87 was a helluva night for me. And I still have my 2 Live Crew shirt from the '91 show; I wore it a few months ago. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/87 "2022-01-23T00:29:31Z")
“Yeah, it was an A&P. I knew that because there was something that only A&P carried when I was a kid (cannot for the life of me remember what) and, every so often, Mom would take me there to get it.” Was it coffee beans? because my parents would specifically go to the A&P for coffee beans. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/88 "2022-01-23T00:32:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Was it coffee beans? because my parents would specifically go to the A&P for coffee beans. Could have been – [Eight O’Clock Coffee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_O%27Clock_Coffee) was made by A&P, and I think it was an exclusive brand for them until the late '70s. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/89 "2022-01-23T03:21:28Z")
I found this article where the Rolling Stone writer talked to Meat Loaf right after the death of Jim Steinman: > **[Meat Loaf Remembers Jim Steinman: 'He Was the Centerpiece of My Life'](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/meat-loaf-remembers-jim-steinman-1160041/)** > > Meat Loaf looks back on his five-decade saga with Jim Steinman. "We belonged to each other," he says. "Heart and soul." Eerie quote: > “After he died, his nurse, Mary Beth, left me a message saying how much he loved me. She said I was the one person he needed more than anyone else in his life. I don’t want to die, but I may die this year because of Jim. I’m always with him and he’s right here with me now. I’ve always been with Jim and Jim has always been with me.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/90 "2022-01-23T06:09:09Z")
I used to love Meat Loaf. But when he campaigned for Chump, I wrote him off completely. Figures he’s an anti-vaxxer. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/91 "2022-01-23T06:29:30Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > when he campaigned for Chump, I wrote him off completely. Ugh, I didn’t know that. Cue cognitive dissonance, big time: I love the raw, unapologetic truth of the songs Meat Loaf sang. I despise Trump supporters. I’ll go find a small, quiet room now, so my head explosion doesn’t leave too big a mess for others to clean up. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/92 "2022-01-23T06:59:25Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I used to love Meat Loaf. But when he campaigned for Chump, I wrote him off completely. You got a cite for that? A little googling found that Meat Loaf and Trump became friends when the singer was on Celebrity Apprentice, but that went downhill after Meat Loaf suggested that [Trump shouldn’t run for president](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/meat-loaf-death-trump-apprentice-b1998007.html). Other than that, it appears that [in 2012 Meat Loaf endorsed Mitt Romney](https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-cnn-anchors-laugh-about-meat-loafs-performance-at-republican-rally-after-lamenting-singers-death/). ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/93 "2022-01-23T07:00:35Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > You got a cite for that? My cite is my eyes. I saw it myself in a news clip during the 2016 election. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/94 "2022-01-23T07:30:22Z")
Well, I can’t find any record of that. This site lists “[31 celebrities who have publicly supported Donald Trump](https://www.businessinsider.com/celebrities-who-support-trump-2016-11).” Here is [another](https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/celebrities-who-support-donald-trump/37/). Meat Loaf isn’t one of them. Sorry, but if you can’t provide a better cite than “my eyes” then I am more than a little sceptical about your claim that he campaigned for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/95 "2022-01-23T07:34:12Z")
Be sceptical. I know what I saw. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/96 "2022-01-23T22:06:23Z")
Was sorry to hear this even though I have never been a big fan. I liked a few of his songs and probably have not heard some of the best. However, he had a unique and amazing voice. I did not know of his asthma, his wonderful personality or theatrical performances. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162/97 "2022-01-24T04:20:19Z")
One of the weirdest Johnny Carson guest-lists: Yitzhak Perlman; Carol Burnett; and Meat Loaf. All sitting together on the couch while Johnny chatted with them. Can’t remember anything of the conversation but I was laughing all the way through it. Three giants in completely different fields. ETA: sorry it was Jay, not Johnny. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-loaf-is-in-the-rear-view-mirror-now/958162.md?page=4)