# meat packing is considered dirty, physically demanding work - anybody tried solving that? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 13, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362 "2010-03-13T17:07:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/21 "2010-03-25T12:18:57Z")
_“I love the smell of fresh cow blood in the morning - smells like victory over hunger!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/22 "2010-03-25T17:00:27Z")
> [@Provoked](#): > > Want to create a better world? Eat like you mean it - [Go Vegan](http://www.nonviolenceunited.org/veganvideo.html) [mod note] This is GQ, not Great Debates. Please skip the propaganda here, but feel free to start a GD thread if you’d like. Thank you. [/mod note] ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/23 "2010-03-25T23:02:12Z")
> [@Provoked](#): > > Shut them down! The whole concept of slaughtering terrified innocent beings filters down to the core of our culture like manure runs down stream. Yeah, but bacon rocks! And so do steaks, hamburgers, sausages, chicken strips, lamb chops, etc… These animals are domesticated. This means that they’ve essentially made a evolutionary choice of sorts to make themselves more attractive to us as food, in exchange for almost guaranteed propagation of the species. In terms of natural selection, the safe play would be to become a food species- think about how many hogs and cattle there are relative to how many there would be if we didn’t eat them. It’s a net gain, even if most do end up as yummy, delicious bacon or steaks. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/24 "2010-03-26T00:36:00Z")
Unfortunately, Slaughterhouse Five (by Kurt Vonnegut) really tells you very little about slaughterhouses. I haven’t read the other four parts, but I’d be surprised if they were any more helpful - so don’t bother with those if you’re educating yourself on this issue. [QUOTE=msmith537] Don’t let the name throw you. It’s not really a floor, it’s more of a steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported. [/QUOTE] Hey, another Bovine University Alumnus/a! What class? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/25 "2010-03-26T02:29:55Z")
> [@](#): > > This is GQ, not Great Debates. Please skip the propaganda here, but feel free to start a GD thread if you’d like. Thank you. In Provoked’s defense, the question was about how to aleviate unpleasant working conditions in the meat packing industry. While I don’t agree with Provoked’s ideas, his/her post was relevant to that subject and people switching to a vegan diet would change the meat packing industry. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/26 "2010-03-26T03:29:58Z")
> [@Provoked](#): > > Shut them down! The whole concept of slaughtering terrified innocent beings filters down to the core of our culture like manure runs down stream. Speaking as someone who hasn’t eaten any kind of meat or poultry for over 17 years, why don’t you mind your own business and let others choose for themselves what they will and won’t eat? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362/27 "2010-03-26T04:29:46Z")
> [@bump](#): > > These animals are domesticated. This means that they’ve essentially made a evolutionary choice of sorts to make themselves more attractive to us as food, in exchange for almost guaranteed propagation of the species. > > In terms of natural selection, the safe play would be to become a food species- think about how many hogs and cattle there are relative to how many there would be if we didn’t eat them. It’s a net gain, even if most do end up as yummy, delicious bacon or steaks. > [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > Speaking as someone who hasn’t eaten any kind of meat or poultry for over 17 years, why don’t you mind your own business and let others choose for themselves what they will and won’t eat? [Moderating] **Gary** has already asked **Provoked** not to engage in a debate about the ethics of meat production here. If you want to debate this issue, please start a new thread in Great Debates, and invite **Provoked** to join you there. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > In Provoked’s defense, the question was about how to aleviate unpleasant working conditions in the meat packing industry. While I don’t agree with Provoked’s ideas, his/her post was relevant to that subject and people switching to a vegan diet would change the meat packing industry. Only in the sense of eliminating the meat packing industry. **Provoked’s** post only peripherally addressed conditions for the workers, and was almost entirely aimed at conditions for the animals. As such, its intention was not really to address the OP but to raise other issues, and as such constituted a hijack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meat-packing-is-considered-dirty-physically-demanding-work-anybody-tried-solving-that/532362.md?page=1)