# Meatloaf sandwiches?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [December 10, 2020, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712 "2020-12-10T02:13:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/21 "2020-12-12T18:13:23Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Does any chain restaurant sell meatloaf sandwiches?

[Claim Jumper](https://www.claimjumper.com/) does. Several years ago, they changed their menu to only mention the hot, open-faced sandwich, but if you specified a cold, traditional sandwich, they were capable of providing that too.

A glance at [their current menu](https://www.claimjumper.com/menus/) indicates that the cold version is back!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/22 "2020-12-12T18:17:27Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Thought this thread was about eating leftovers for lunch Over at the Frankenstein Place.
> 
> I’ll leave now…

So sorry you messed up the joke, but it’s still a pretty good one.

Franken_FURTER_. That is all.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/23 "2020-12-12T18:20:13Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> So sorry you messed up the joke, but it’s still a pretty good one.
> 
> Franken _FURTER_ . That is all

_In the velvet darkness,  
Of the blackest night,  
Burning bright,  
There’s a guiding star.  
No matter what or who you are.  
There’s a light  
Over at the Frankenstein place._

**THAT** is all.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/24 "2020-12-12T18:20:49Z")

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Thank you for saving me the typing.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/25 "2020-12-12T19:25:51Z")

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A week ago, I actually had never heard of meatloaf sandwiches. Meatloaf is largely a cafeteria special here in Canada, and they don’t put it on bread. Neither did my mother, nor any Canadian restaurant I’ve seen. It’s just not a thing here.

I do add tons of stuff to my burger patties. This may annoy purists, but they are delicious. Far better than most standard burgers, which are generally pretty mediocre if you just eat the meat individually, except at a few places.

But, with cooler weather comes a desire for comforting food. I’ve been making a lot of meatloaf - The Cook’s Illustrated recipe is awesome, though I’ve improved it. In the spirit of this thread, I tried putting leftover meatloaf on buttered bread, both cold and warm. And it is a thing of beauty. Easy to prepare and remarkably flavourful. I’m going through 2lbs. of beef a day. Bad timing, since Covid is now reducing gym access again.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/26 "2020-12-12T19:59:11Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I thought it was “gang agley”- ??

It’s “[gang aft agley](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43816/to-a-mouse-56d222ab36e33).”

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/27 "2020-12-13T06:29:14Z")

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From “Burns into English” A. Corbett, 1892,

> But Mousie, not alone us twain,  
> Can prove how forsight may be vain  
> The best laid schemes of mice and men go oft awry,  
> And leave us naught be grief and pain,  
> for promised joy.

Burns has always been enormously popular in English translation. I tried to find the William Kean Seymour translation, which may have been more recently popular in the USA, but I couldn’t find text.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/28 "2020-12-13T06:34:55Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> My mother cooks a few dishes very well. But growing up, I found some of her dishes very bland. Rather than complain, I was encouraged to cook my own damn hamburger, or whatever. So from an early age, I was cooking.

All the while vowing that when you grew up you would adopt a spice-based online persona and battle against the forces of blandness.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/29 "2020-12-13T14:53:26Z")

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All while properly pronouncing “paprika” with the “ash” sound at the end.

I’m wondering what his signature superhero costume looks like. Whatever it is, it’ll be piquant.

> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> > [@AHunter3](#):
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> > I thought it was “gang agley”- ??
> 
> It’s “[gang aft agley](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43816/to-a-mouse-56d222ab36e33).”

Here’s a relevant use of “gang aft agley” from a recent thread: 😉

> [@I quit my progressively crappier job and got a dream job](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-quit-my-progressively-crappier-job-and-got-a-dream-job/926324/34):
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> This guy went with coveralls and a bow tie.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/30 "2020-12-13T15:20:38Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> A week ago, I actually had never heard of meatloaf sandwiches

Then I’m sure you are missing out on much much more than just meatloaf sandwiches. It’s an art form for leftovers whatever ya got on hand.

> **[A Totally Obsessive A-to-Z Guide to Making Sandwiches](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bonappetit.com/gallery/obsessive-guide-making-sandwiches/amp)**
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> The best thing since sliced bread is a bunch of stuff between sliced bread.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/31 "2020-12-13T15:23:48Z")

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“We shall feed them in the beaches. We shall feed them with our pepper ground. We shall feed them in the fields and with spicy eats. We will feed them with the chillies. And we will never use Splenda.”

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/32 "2020-12-13T17:23:02Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> “We shall feed them in the beaches. We shall feed them with our pepper ground. We shall feed them in the fields and with spicy eats. We will feed them with the chillies. And we will never use Splenda.”

Username / content correspondence index of 10

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/33 "2020-12-13T18:01:45Z")

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One tries.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/34 "2020-12-13T18:51:18Z")

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> [@Delayed\_Reflex](#):
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> My thought is that there are a few reasons that most, if not all restaurant burgers go with 100% beef:

What they say is “Made _with_ 100% beef.” That doesn’t mean that there isn’t filler in there. It just means that at least some of the meat they put in there is 100% beef. Now, if it says “Made _of_ 100% beef”, that’s a different story.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/35 "2020-12-13T20:02:34Z")

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There’s a big difference between filler - adding extra water, sawdust and pollutants; and adding onions, spice, sauces and items which clearly enhance the end result. A fast food restaurant with s markedly better product is likely to succeed.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/36 "2020-12-13T21:59:51Z")

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I always understood “with 100% beef” to mean that the meat in the burger was all beef. I.e. no pork or any other sort of meat.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Boston Market did when I worked there 20 years ago, but according to their website it’s no longer on the menu. It came with romaine lettuce, tomato, cheddar cheese, and hickory ketchup.

They used to sell them as recently as 3-4 years ago- I got one about then. Wasn’t bad, and was made exactly as you describe.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Pshaw, sez I. You want to make the best sandwich you can. That means making the patty taste amazing. You can still use great toppings to add more character.

Generally speaking, this comes down to how you like your burgers. Some people (and the general culinary world consensus) like their burger patties to be all ground beef with minimal additions- stuff like pepper, fish sauce/Worcestershire/msg are all ok, but adding binders or other stuff like onions or grated carrot (WTF?) is out of the question. The idea here is that the burger is the interplay between the grilled or seared ground meat patty, the bun, and the toppings. Having too much stuff in the patty itself kind of makes this something else. Also, at some point in the adding of other stuff, it does cross the line from a hamburger patty into meatloaf territory. Traditionally the hamburger has been beef and minimal additions- the ones with the stuff tend to be homegrown, FWIW.

It’s similar to the sauce vs. no sauce, or pork vs. beef barbecue fights, or the beans/no-beans chili fights. There’s no right answer- just opinionated people on all sides.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/37 "2020-12-13T22:02:54Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I always understood “with 100% beef” to mean that the meat in the burger was all beef. I.e. no pork or any other sort of meat.

That’s pretty much what I said. No cat, monkey or rat meat.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/38 "2020-12-13T22:04:09Z")

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I thought you were saying that “with 100% beef” meant that the burger might be made with 100% beef, and 100% pork, etc… It was the “Some” part that threw me.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/39 "2020-12-13T22:23:37Z")

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It’s not like an all-beef burger can’t be great. But even creative chefs espouse this crap. And it _is_ crap. They wouldn’t hesitate for a second to “offer my take” on a traditional dish, “update” French or Italian classics, mix different traditions. But ground beef with some egg, mustard and spices, shaped into a patty and grilled, served on a bun with pickles and onion, etc. is “no longer a burger”. There’s no right answer. But there are wrong ones. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meatloaf-sandwiches/927712/40 "2020-12-14T02:36:05Z")

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There’s a good Italian butcher/deli a few blocks away from me in Brooklyn that used to do a fine meatloaf hero sandwich with grilled onion and brown gravy. They changed ownership about ten years ago and the meatloaf disappeared. Even worse, the brown gravy option also vanished (if no meatloaf was available on any given day, a good substitute was hot roast beef with fresh mozzarella, onions, and gravy).

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