# Medical Marijuana discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 13, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912 "2019-05-13T17:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/21 "2019-05-14T17:44:45Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Just out of curiosity, what will you do if your great new PHP actually cures your PTSD and IBD/IBS? > > Regards, > Shodan As far as IBS/IBD is concerned, I’ve had gastrointestinal issues my entire adult life. Stress causes a worsening of symptoms, but I’ve always managed by self medicating with cannabis. As for PTSD, on researching it I became aware that I have it to some degree, as do most people who have lived an average life over six decades. I had unstable angina/chest pain for six weeks before seeing my doctor. He referred me to a cardiologist who placed a stent in one of my coronary arteries. Since that time I’ve had nightmares involving chest pain, causing me to wake up thinking I’m having a heart attack. Cannabis stops these dreams. The doctor who discussed these matters is not my new PCP, as her practice is currently limited to seeing patients seeking certification under PA Medical Marijuana law. Plus, she is not in my health insurance group. I guess I’ll frantically search for a new PCP when my next health crises occurs.:eek: > [@CarnalK](#): > > How about if they’re not in pain, just like you don’t really have IBD or PTSD? > > Your new doctor doesn’tt sound good. Sounds more like a soft touch, which I understand you appreciating in this case. Well, I do not judge others. If they are seeking pain meds, I assume they are in pain. As far as my health, I have gastrointestinal issues and after reading and discussing PTSD, I recognize symptoms of the disorder as things I experience. And as I mentioned previously, she’s not my “new doctor”, she is a physician recognized by the state as someone who can certify MMJ patients. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/22 "2019-05-15T01:19:31Z")
Come on. You know perfectly well that your self diagnosis is utterly meaningless. I like marijuana but I have little love for quack\* such as the one who gave you a scrip nor a fan of legislation that pushes doctors to prescribe untested treatments. \*so you’ve got a heart stint. Did the marijuana doctor even suggest that you don’t smoke it? ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/23 "2019-05-15T01:31:42Z")
Some people in this thread need to smoke a bowl. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/24 "2019-05-15T04:28:00Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Come on. You know perfectly well that your self diagnosis is utterly meaningless. I like marijuana but I have little love for quack\* such as the one who gave you a scrip nor a fan of legislation that pushes doctors to prescribe untested treatments. > > \*so you’ve got a heart stint. Did the marijuana doctor even suggest that you don’t smoke it? The other do told him to keep buying it on the street, so maybe it’s not that big a deal with his medical history, however he partakes? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/25 "2019-05-15T04:29:00Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Some people in this thread need to smoke a bowl. To say the least. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/26 "2019-05-15T10:24:15Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > \*so you’ve got a heart stint. Did the marijuana doctor even suggest that you don’t smoke it? Smoking marijuana is illegal in PA. Although you can purchase bud, it must be vaped to be 100% legal. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/27 "2019-05-15T10:25:37Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Some people in this thread need to smoke a bowl. OK. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/28 "2019-05-15T11:15:01Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The other do told him to keep buying it on the street, so maybe it’s not that big a deal with his medical history, however he partakes? :rolleyes: Whatever. So very sorry to harsh you and Helen330’s mellow. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/29 "2019-05-15T14:56:12Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > As a resident in a legal state, it’s astonishing how hung up the rest of the country is. Yet alcohol is available pretty much anywhere.\*\* Give me a stoner over a drunk any day\*\*. Hear hear! And this is from an alcoholic that destroyed his liver drinking a six pack of beer a night for 3 decades and am now firmly ensconced in the Team Marijuana camp. I am prescribed opioids but I don’t get that scrip filled. Why? Because I don’t want to take them. They make me itchy and constipated and I dislike how I feel when I’ve taken them. And I don’t want to get addicted to them either. I have alcoholic neuropathy in my legs and sometimes the gabapentin isn’t enough. But a couple puffs off a pen and it’s all gone, and I can relax. And I’m not even inhaling actual smoke! So very low cancer/carcinogenic risk there too. I mean seriously…anyone with half a brain knows that legal alcohol ruins more lives, families, causes more auto accidents, etc than marijuana could ever come close to. Drunks tend to make extremely unwise decisions (“I can make it home!”) as opposed to a stoner wanting to eat macaroni out of a green bowl. ETA: and I live in a state where there isn’t even a provision for medicinal. Yes, it’s a very red state (IN). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/30 "2019-05-15T15:02:20Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > But a couple puffs off a pen and it’s all gone, and I can relax. Good to hear you are managing your pain. Are you using a disposable pen? Is it draw-activated? (some pens, like one I currently have, lack an off/on button. You just draw to take a hit.) Anyone know how draw-activated pens work? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/31 "2019-05-15T15:05:57Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Good to hear you are managing your pain. > > Are you using a disposable pen? Is it draw-activated? (some pens, like one I currently have, lack an off/on button. You just draw to take a hit.) > > Anyone know how draw-activated pens work? It’s just a small battery with a 5/10 threading that has an actuator button and buttons to increase/decrease voltage. Has an LED readout up top that shows battery life, counts your draws in seconds for you automatically and shows when it’s charging via a USB on the bottom. The carts are disposable once emptied of oil. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/32 "2019-05-15T15:18:53Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > Some people in this thread need to smoke a bowl. Took longer than I thought in this thread, but there it is. Stoners think everyone should be like them. Maybe some here should stop smoking a bowl for a while, get a new perspective. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/33 "2019-05-15T15:19:05Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > It’s just a small battery with a 5/10 threading that has an actuator button and buttons to increase/decrease voltage. Has an LED readout up top that shows battery life, counts your draws in seconds for you automatically and shows when it’s charging via a USB on the bottom. > > The carts are disposable once emptied of oil. OK, I’ve used ones like that. I’m currently using a pen without an on/off switch. When you draw on it, the battery automatically supplies power (I assume from a pressure difference activating a switch). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/34 "2019-05-15T15:20:43Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Took longer than I thought in this thread, but there it is. Stoners think everyone should be like them. Maybe some here should stop smoking a bowl for a while, get a new perspective. 😕 “Medical Marijuana discussion thread”. We are discussing medical marijuana. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/35 "2019-05-15T15:23:03Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > OK, I’ve used ones like that. I’m currently using a pen without an on/off switch. When you draw on it, the battery automatically supplies power (I assume from a pressure difference activating a switch). In an effort to try to quit smoking cigarettes on top of quitting booze (well shit, it’s been almost two years now come July!) I got one of those Juul devices and they work that way with that auto on when a draw is applied. But as with my battery, the Juul IS the battery and the pods with nicotine juice in them are detachable and disposable once used up. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/36 "2019-05-15T15:28:23Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Took longer than I thought in this thread, but there it is. Stoners think everyone should be like them. Maybe some here should stop smoking a bowl for a while, get a new perspective. It’s also just a euphemism for “chill out”. I get the pushback **kayaker** is getting on the means to the end, especially from the medical professionals we have on here, but I also understand his perspective too. It must be nice to be able to legally buy the stuff. I can’t and I wish I could. I think a broader point needs to be made: after all these decades of propagandistic bullshit leveled at marijuana by our very own government, enough people in positions of influence are FINALLY wising up to the fact that it’s a relatively innocuous drug, especially when compared to alcohol. I think total legalization in all 50 states and at the federal level is only a matter of when, not if. So we might as well be frank in our discussions about it, because it’s coming. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/37 "2019-05-15T16:36:30Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > 😕 > > “Medical Marijuana discussion thread”. We are discussing medical marijuana. raventhief and Helena330 were discussing how I’m too uptight and need to smoke a bowl, despite the fact that I had probably already smoked a bowl. Basically that I have a personality problem because I don’t have love for doctors who abandon their due diligence so you can self prescribe cannabis. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/38 "2019-05-15T16:48:19Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > raventhief and Helena330 were discussing how I’m too uptight and need to smoke a bowl, despite the fact that I had probably already smoked a bowl. Basically that I have a personality problem because I don’t have love for doctors who abandon their due diligence so you can self prescribe cannabis. I think that the issue is that you need to smoke _another_ bowl… :D:D ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/39 "2019-05-15T16:48:54Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > raventhief and Helena330 were discussing how I’m too uptight and need to smoke a bowl, despite the fact that I had probably already smoked a bowl. Basically that I have a personality problem because **I don’t have love for doctors who abandon their due diligence so you can self prescribe cannabis.** (bolding mine) Actually, the doctor I met with has not, IMHO, abandoned her due diligence. If anything, she believes that some people are helped by non-mainstream medical care. She is a passionate supporter of patient rights. If you (CarnalK) want to be upset with someone, send your negative feelings to those, like me, who are maybe gaming the system to a small degree. We good? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/40 "2019-05-15T17:27:26Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Took longer than I thought in this thread, but there it is. Stoners think everyone should be like them. Maybe some here should stop smoking a bowl for a while, get a new perspective. I don’t actually smoke marijuana. But CarnalK said he likes it, and I think that perhaps he should chill out about someone else’s choices in that regard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912.md?page=3)