# Medical Marijuana discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 13, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912 "2019-05-13T17:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/61 "2019-05-17T21:42:30Z")

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In a cannabis-ish related thing for us …

Today in the mail we got a flier from a place in the area selling CBD oil. Showed an older couple on it.

So this can be sent thru the US mail to target seniors now. That’s cool.

I have an aunt that’s on some sort of MM thing for the swelling in her hand. She’s 90. Things are different now, but not everywhere.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/62 "2019-05-17T22:02:17Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> I have an aunt that’s on some sort of MM thing for the swelling in her hand. She’s 90. Things are different now, but not everywhere.

Years ago I supplied a friend’s 88 year old dad with cannabis to help him tolerate his chemo (on the whispered advice of his oncologist). It really helped him. He even regained a few pounds. But the only pipe I had that I didn’t mind giving away was a long, purple, wooden dragon. 😃

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/63 "2019-05-18T23:21:51Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> Actually, it’s about judging people who are trying the best they can to manage their issues in our sucky health “system”. The last time I smoked was last November when I was smoking a low THC-strain. It was recommended to me by an excellent budtender who understood that I needed to manage extreme anxiety, not get high. You see, my husband was hospitalized across the country after having a heart attack. He had open heart surgery. My doctor told me to try deep-breathing and gave me an antihistamine to help me sleep. I thought she was kidding. The weed helped take off the panicky edge.
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> My husband died. I haven’t smoked any weed since then, but I’m not going to judge _anyone_ for how they manage their lives. Or how they acquire what they use. I blame the system and not the people, unlike those in this thread who sit in judgment. :rolleyes:

hell, yes.

good post, Helena! 🙂

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/64 "2019-05-19T03:13:46Z")

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I bought my first CBD gummies today. I’ve been having a very hard time sleeping for the last month or so (menopause). I’ve tried Melatonin which definitely calmed my mind but it made me dizzy and nauseous. While I do fall asleep, I wake up two hours later wide awake and can’t fall back to sleep.

I’ve tried some other over the counter sleep aids but still the same thing - fall asleep, wake up a short time later wide awake.

I’m hoping the gummies will help me stay asleep.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/65 "2019-05-19T11:34:58Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I bought my first CBD gummies today. I’ve been having a very hard time sleeping for the last month or so (menopause). I’ve tried Melatonin which definitely calmed my mind but it made me dizzy and nauseous. While I do fall asleep, I wake up two hours later wide awake and can’t fall back to sleep.
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> I’ve tried some other over the counter sleep aids but still the same thing - fall asleep, wake up a short time later wide awake.
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> I’m hoping the gummies will help me stay asleep.

I’ve heard that CBD takes a few days to “kick in”.

My gf has had sleep issues. She gave up on melatonin after a month. I read some interesting research about lavender oil in a diffuser. In several studies women slept better with lavender being diffused overnight. I bought a bottle of lavender and a diffuser, and the last two months she’s been sleeping perfectly.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/66 "2019-05-20T15:44:08Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’ve heard that CBD takes a few days to “kick in”.
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> My gf has had sleep issues. She gave up on melatonin after a month. I read some interesting research about lavender oil in a diffuser. In several studies women slept better with lavender being diffused overnight. I bought a bottle of lavender and a diffuser, and the last two months she’s been sleeping perfectly.

I would love to have a lavender diffuser but I have budgies and they’re super sensitive to strong smells.

I ate half a gummie bear before bed night before last. It might just be coincidence but I did sleep a bit better. I normally wake up 6, 7 or 8 times a night and then have a very hard time falling back asleep. I woke up 2 times and was able to fall back asleep within a few minutes.

I took half a gummie again last night and slept quite well, actually. I woke up 2 times but went back to sleep until I woke up at 5:00 am and was pretty awake. It’s my day off though so there was no way I was getting up so early. I lay there, awake, for about half an hour but fell back asleep till 8:10 which is almost unheard of for me!

So I’ll continue to eat half a gummie and hope it continues to improve.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/67 "2019-05-21T03:32:13Z")

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Adding PTSD to the list was a brilliant marketing decision as a lot of people have “trauma” and the definition can be stretched to cover whatever the patient and doctor wants it to.

PTSD was underdiagnosed for the longest time. Now it seems that anyone who sneezes wrong has that diagnosis.

I don’t see why pot can’t simply be made legal without the façade of medical marijuana. Just make it legal already.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/68 "2019-05-21T10:03:45Z")

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Pennsylvania’s list of qualifying conditions is evolving. [Tourette Syndrom](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23187140)e and anxiety have been under consideration. Adding anxiety would qualify pretty much everyone.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/69 "2019-05-22T05:51:28Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Once we study the various active components of pot, I’m sure we’ll find some demonstrated uses for it. But touting it as a fix for nearly everything then making physicians complicit in approving it remains ludicrous.

And we’ve just gotten some: [Study finds CBD effective in treating heroin addiction](https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/21/health/heroin-opioid-addiction-cbd-study/index.html). I’m sure we’ll eventually get more, but probably more from Canada than the US.

> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I bought my first CBD gummies today. I’ve been having a very hard time sleeping for the last month or so (menopause). I’ve tried Melatonin which definitely calmed my mind but it made me dizzy and nauseous. While I do fall asleep, I wake up two hours later wide awake and can’t fall back to sleep.

Melatonin should be a prescription drug instead of an OTC “nutrition supplement”. It’s not innocuous; it can have significant side effects. I used to take it to help get to sleep. I’m not sure it actually did much for my insomnia, but eventually I heard that it can aggravate certain autoimmune diseases. In my case, I have a mild allergy to some pollen (don’t know what kind) and a tendency to arthritis in my knuckles. At the time I heard about this side effect, those were getting worse. So I stopped taking the stuff and those things cleared up.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/70 "2019-05-22T12:01:26Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I never lied. Lying is something I do not do even in situations where some people would say it was OK. As far as wasting my doctor’s time, his time is _what I pay for_. In fact, he was pissed off at me for not paying for his time every year.

Eh, you were mis-using his time, even if he is an asshole. Is have more sympathy for you if you’d been having trouble obtaining it.

And as I mentioned, I favor legalizing recreational pot. I have no issue with your use of pot, just of the medical system.

> [@dtilque](#):
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> …
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> Melatonin should be a prescription drug instead of an OTC “nutrition supplement”. It’s not innocuous; it can have significant side effects. I used to take it to help get to sleep. I’m not sure it actually did much for my insomnia, but eventually I heard that it can aggravate certain autoimmune diseases. In my case, I have a mild allergy to some pollen (don’t know what kind) and a tendency to arthritis in my knuckles. At the time I heard about this side effect, those were getting worse. So I stopped taking the stuff and those things cleared up.

The whole nutrition supplement system is dicey, but in general I favor legalizing most drugs unless they have a significant risk of:  
Addiction  
Major, irreversible damage or death  
Significant antisocial behavior

So melatonin falls well into the camp of drugs that I’d prefer be OTC. And I find it extremely useful for jetlag. I take a low dose for 3-5 days in each direction. I’ve never noticed any adverse effects, and it really improves my travel experience.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/71 "2019-07-12T17:41:28Z")

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Effective July 20, 2019 Pennsylvania recognizes **anxiety** as a qualifying condition for medical marijuana. The MMJ community is abuzz over this. Suddenly pretty much everyone qualifies. Shortages of product are expected.

I texted a dozen friends who were waiting for this to happen and am now helping some of them become certified.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/72 "2019-07-12T18:27:08Z")

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Medical marijuana makes a mockery out of the medical community. IMHO.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/73 "2019-07-12T18:37:40Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Medical marijuana makes a mockery out of the medical community. IMHO.

Lack of a single-payer health system has led to a situation where sick people cannot afford care, diabetics cannot afford insulin, etc. \* This\* makes a mockery of the medical community, leading to people looking other places for care. IMHO.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/74 "2019-07-12T19:01:29Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Lack of a single-payer health system has led to a situation where sick people cannot afford care, diabetics cannot afford insulin, etc. \* This\* makes a mockery of the medical community, leading to people looking other places for care. IMHO.

There are degrees of mockery.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/75 "2019-07-12T19:59:22Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> There are degrees of mockery.

Hickory and dockery as well. Degrees within degrees, sort of a droste effect.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medical-marijuana-discussion-thread/833912/76 "2019-07-12T20:16:31Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Hickory and dockery as well. Degrees within degrees, sort of a droste effect.

Duuuuuude…that’s _heavy_. Quit bogarting my prescription!!

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