# Medically moronic media moments.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495 "2019-03-03T19:37:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/1 "2019-03-03T19:37:58Z")

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Watching _Travelers_ 2x06 a copule of days ago, I noticed this howler:

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> The shot to his gut tore his liver, hepatic artery, and the gallbladder.

(There was something else I saw recently were someone was stabbed or shot in the liver via the lower gut, but I can’t recall what.)

So whatcha got?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/2 "2019-03-03T19:54:49Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Watching _Travelers_ 2x06 a copule of days ago, I noticed this howler:

What are you saying is the error there, that the liver is mid-abdomen rather than lower abdomen? I’m not sure I’d quite call that a “howler”.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/3 "2019-03-03T20:01:20Z")

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Well, this is historical, but it relates to medical stuff. M_A_S\*H spread the false story that Charles Drew(a huge researcher in blood transfusions) died because of he was rejected for a blood transfusion due to his race.

It’s not true, though I read that when the tv episode of MASH aired, it had not been debunked for sure, so they were less guilty than if someone tells it today.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/4 "2019-03-03T20:15:37Z")

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Too many to list for HOUSE…but mostly, there appear to be only 6 or so people in that hospital. I mean they have the lead characters going to somebodies house and trawling litter boxes.

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**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/5 "2019-03-03T20:17:46Z")

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Pretty much every use of a defibrillator.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/6 "2019-03-03T20:33:24Z")

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I used to laugh at the length of pregnancy in soap operas. Either very long or very short. And seems like the kid would be a angsty teen before you knew what happened.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/7 "2019-03-03T20:36:11Z")

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When performing resuscitation techniques, it is not actually necessary to shout “Breathe, damn you! Breathe!”

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/8 "2019-03-03T20:37:12Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> Pretty much every use of a defibrillator.

And as a corollary, every use of CPR. And it’s clearly something that has spilled over into people’s perceptions of likely outcomes if someone’s heart stops in any situation where they can’t get very prompt and well-equipped expert medical attention (or likely outcomes even when they can).

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/9 "2019-03-03T20:41:52Z")

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> [@Miss\_Mapp](#):
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> When performing resuscitation techniques, it is not actually necessary to shout “Breathe, damn you! Breathe!”

I thought it was “Live damn you, LIVE!”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/10 "2019-03-03T20:47:27Z")

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To elaborate, CPR doesn’t make people recover. It just (hopefully) keeps people barely alive for long enough for some other sort of medical intervention (at least a defibrillator, possibly more depending on why CPR was needed to begin with).

Though outcomes are a lot better nowadays, with automatic defibrillators usable by a layman all over the place in public spaces.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/11 "2019-03-03T20:53:08Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> I thought it was “Live damn you, LIVE!”

Yes, if Miss Mapp is not adhering to the modern standard of care, she can’t expect a good outcome.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/12 "2019-03-03T21:03:04Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> I thought it was “Live damn you, LIVE!”

I believe that’s more common for CPR, or before or after shouting “Clear!” when applying defib paddles to someone’s chest.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/13 "2019-03-03T21:49:00Z")

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Any time anything is injected into a neck or worse, directlt into a heart. Something wrong with their arm?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/14 "2019-03-03T21:52:56Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> I thought it was “Live damn you, LIVE!”

Or, from _The Abyss_:

“Goddamn you bitch, you never backed down from anything in your life! Now fight! Fight! Fight!”

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/15 "2019-03-03T21:58:37Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Any time anything is injected into a neck or worse, directlt into a heart. Something wrong with their arm?

There’s at least an echo of reality in that. Intracardiac injections were used historically, and fell into disuse only in the 1970s.

> **[Intracardiac injection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intracardiac_injection)**
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> Intracardiac injections are injections that are given directly into the heart muscles or ventricles. They can be used in emergencies, although they are rarely used in modern practice.
> The practice of intracardiac injection originated in the 1800s. It was commonly performed during the 1960s, as it was considered the fastest way to get medication to the heart. The practice began declining during the 1970s as more reliable delivery methods (i.e., intravenous, endotracheal, and intraosseous) came in...

Tarantino likes his medical treatments retro, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/16 "2019-03-03T22:27:11Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> To elaborate, CPR doesn’t make people recover. It just (hopefully) keeps people barely alive for long enough for some other sort of medical intervention (at least a defibrillator, possibly more depending on why CPR was needed to begin with).
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> Though outcomes are a lot better nowadays, with automatic defibrillators usable by a layman all over the place in public spaces.

Of course, the bigger howler with CPR is not that it works, it’s that they dramatically come back to life 15 seconds after you \*\*\*stop \*\*\*doing CPR.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/17 "2019-03-03T22:44:19Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> “Goddamn you bitch, you never backed down from anything in your life! Now fight! Fight! Fight!”

If you stop CPR for more than 30 seconds, the prognosis is poor, and the “Live damn you” technique may be inadequate when you resume resuscitatation efforts - which of course you only do if the patient is sufficiently hot. Much louder shouting and violent slapping is required at this stage.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-dJq2urnVbE/hqdefault.jpg "The Abyss 1989 Ed Harris CPR to Mastrantonio") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dJq2urnVbE)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/18 "2019-03-03T23:13:09Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Any time anything is injected into a neck or worse, directlt into a heart. Something wrong with their arm?

If the person has already used up all their arm veins, yes.

TV shows always depict pharmacists wearing those Nehru-jacket things. They were obsolete long before I went to school in the early 1990s, and I once had a conversation with a classmate where he said, “If I ever interviewed for a job at a place where I had to wear one of those, I’d turn it down outright.”

Doctors also do not sit by a patient’s bedside, waiting for the family to show up, nor do they inform families of a death or terrible prognosis in the parking lot or a crowded hallway.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/19 "2019-03-03T23:14:44Z")

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The relationship between a cast-iron pan and amnesia due to a crack on the noggin (and subsequent memory recovery via a second crack) needs further study, ergo a large grant is required. I’ll send you my address.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medically-moronic-media-moments/830495/20 "2019-03-03T23:32:57Z")

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> [@Miss\_Mapp](#):
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> When performing resuscitation techniques, it is not actually necessary to shout “Breathe, damn you! Breathe!”

> [@guestchaz](#):
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> I thought it was “Live damn you, LIVE!”

> [@Miss\_Mapp](#):
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> I believe that’s more common for CPR, or before or after shouting “Clear!” when applying defib paddles to someone’s chest.

> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Or, from _The Abyss_:
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> “Goddamn you bitch, you never backed down from anything in your life! Now fight! Fight! Fight!”

Well duh; you have to slap the patient’s face before yelling “Live, damn you!” This is, of course, much more important than maintaining a steady rhythm of chest compressions.

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