Medics: "Amnesia drug"?

Which endo was your endo though? Mine was down the throat, not up the ass, and I cannot suppress my gag reflex. I was gagging and puking throughout the whole procedure (according to the nurse).

I believe that with an endo, that’s the point :dubious: :smiley:

Sorry, but someone had to say it; I don’t beat the other dopers to things nearly often enough.

Ow. Sorry.

Still, maybe it just works on most people’s memories. There’s no law saying it has to work on EVERYBODY, unfortunately.

Hmmm. I had an operation at the base of my spinal cord a few years ago, and I’m wondering if I got midazolam after all, and not full anesthesia.

On my way into the O.R., he nurse injected something into my I.V., I briefly felt something warm in my arm, and then I was unconscious. And of course, the next thing I knew, I was being wheeled into recovery where the nurse kept shooting me up with morphine.

[aside]
*Nurse: Do you feel pain?
Me: Yes.
(Nurse shoots me up with something.
Nurse, a few minutes later: Do you feel pain?
Me: Yes.
(Nurse shoots me up again.)
Nurse, a few minutes later: Do you feel pain?
Me: What are you injecting me with?
Nurse: Morphine.
Me: I FEEL PAIN! :smiley: *
[/aside]

Anyway, I always just assumed they first gave me pentothal or a strong benzo in the I.V., then gassed me to keep me out. However, since I was on my stomach for the length of the one-hour operation, it might not have been feasible to strap a mask on my face. (Plus, it was only one hour, so maybe full anesthesia wasn’t called for.) Maybe it was indeed Versed.

Thoughts from MDs on Versed vs. full anesthesia for one-hour operations?

Actually not a he nurse; that would have been great. The surgeon was totally hot, though. :wink:

Scott Evil, speaking as someone who’s had lots of general anasthesia, I can tell you that, at least around here, it’s SOP to put some Versed into the IV prior to the general. I’ve been told by some anasthesiologists that they “give you something to make you forget” and, putting two and two together, it’s probably the Versed that they use to relax you. Since it doesn’t have amnesiac qualities for me, I always clearly remember right up to to them putting a mask over my face and saying “Take five deep breaths” (I’ve never taken more than two before I’m in the dark). Anyway, it’s possible you had a general, but don’t remember the mask, etc. because of the Versed.

Oh, yeah, and YAY for morphine. I did have a horrible experience once just post-surgery where they shot me up with so much morphine it almost killed me, but then again at that point, death seemed an attractive option. Details available if anyone requests them, but otherwise, you probably don’t want to know

I did come out of the surgery with a mask on, feeding me oxygen. Do they just keep the same mask on and change the “feed?” I don’t remember feeling nauseous or anything, though, which people often report after a general. That was probably because of the O[sub]2[/sub].

And the morphine was fun, but I got more of a kick out of the Demerol that Nurse Ratched stuck me with later that evening, as I was coming out of the elevator from going outside for a smoke. I’m serious, she was standing in the hallway with a syringe locked and loaded, just waiting for me.

Anyway, I got into bed, and it felt like I was gently rocking back and forth. Bliss.

(I still demanded something more to help me sleep. Hey, I was there, and they had drugs.)

[AbFab]
Edina: Local? Local anesthetic? What is this, Eastern Europe? I want total sensory deprivation and backup drugs!
Saffy: Believe me, she’s much happier unconscious. :smiley:
[/AbFab]

I don’t know about them using the same mask and different drugs; I will tell you that I only had nausea after a general one time. And I’ve been under general maybe seven times. It’s my understanding that while nausea is not uncommon after a general, it’s not a given.

I don’t think it’s common today to use pure Versed. Different doctors use a different “cocktail” of drugs for different procedures. Your aftereffects may vary greatly depending on what mixture of drugs you get.

I’ve had both colonoscopies and an endoscopy, all from the same gastroenterologist. Every time it was seamless from “we’ve going to start” to the waiting room. Exactly the way I want it.

But I woke up in the middle of carpal tunnel surgery. Didn’t feel anything at all but I lifted my head to see what was going on behind the curtain they had set up. They noticed and sent me back to dreamland.

Still, nothing is weirder than my first tooth extraction under Versed. My wife tells me I was siting in the afterroom rationally talking and listening to the nurse giving me follow-up procedures. Then after a half hour of this, I woke up. The nurse had to come back and give the instructions all over again, and I refused to believe she had done it once before. I never regained those memories either.

Would this be the same thing they gave me for my wisdom teeth? I remember ‘waking up’ and asking the nurse “Did I wake up on my own, or did you folks revive me?” to which she responded “you came out on your own, and that is the third time you have asked me that.” I was quite loopy for a few hours afterwards. They put my in a waiting room while they got my friend who was to drive me home, and I got the ingenious idea that I would sober up faster if I got some exercise. I promptly started pacing laps around the waiting room, and the nurse came in and said “You know, I would be a lot more comfortable if you would please sit down.”

One more thing not mentioned here.

When I was in clinics, I did two months on two different pulmonary services. I saw a lot of bronchoscopies, which can be quite unpleasant for the patient. They would shoot the patient up with Versed, and then when the procedure was over, they gave the patient the antidote, a drug called Flumazenil.

This is why for some people, it may have seemed like a video edit. The Versed hit, they stopped remembering, the Flumazenil hit and the Versed goes away almost instantaneously. The rest of the day may be hazy because both drugs are cleared at different rates. For others, it could be an extended fade-back in if Flumazenil isn’t given – the Versed just wears off by itself.

FlippyFly. Sounds similar. After another wisdom tooth extraction I was being driven home and suddenly I saw two roads ahead of me, merging at a 45º angle. Vertically.