# Medieval superstions alive, well

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522 "2003-12-07T06:41:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SpectBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@SpectBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpectBrain)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/21 "2003-12-07T23:05:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by NothingMan \*  
> \*\ ***Cecil** ’s image appeared on a cheese pizza I ordered last night. Should I be expecting pilgrims at my door? \*\*

A turkey wearing a mortar board??

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**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/22 "2003-12-08T00:41:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*Catholic bashing is fun!
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> So you consider murdering a Catholic priest “fun”? \*\*

**milroyj** , allow me to acquaint you with a charming little Earth concept called sarcasm…

Hey, how come they don’t bring a piece of the tilma to my church? I would be honored to venerate a piece of the cloth that the Virgin of Guadalupe’s image miraculously appeared on.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/23 "2003-12-08T01:04:03Z")

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Maybe they bought em from Baldrick?

“Moving on to relics, we’ve got shrouds, from Turin; er, wine from the wedding at Cana; splinters from the cross and, of course, there’s stuff made by Jesus in his days in the carpentry shoppe: got pipe racks, coffee tables, coatstands, bookends, crucifixes, a nice cheeseboard, fruit bowls, waterpoof sandals…”

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/24 "2003-12-08T01:18:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Thea Logica \*  
> **milroyj, allow me to acquaint you with a charming little Earth concept called sarcasm…**

Sorry, not buying it. If someone started a thread mocking Muslim beliefs, it would be called hate-speech, not sarcasm.

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/25 "2003-12-08T05:02:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*So you consider murdering a Catholic priest “fun”? \*\*

I don’t know. I’ve never tried it.

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**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/26 "2003-12-08T05:06:51Z")

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\*♫ Ave, Maria  
So glad to see ya!

Genufect, genuflect, genuflect!♫\*

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/27 "2003-12-08T05:15:22Z")

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\*\*_♫ There’s a man who’s got religion’ll  
Tell you if your sin’s original.  
If it is, try playing it safer.  
Drink the wine and chew the wafer.  
Two, four, six, eight,  
Time to transubstantiate.♫_ \*\*

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/28 "2003-12-08T05:16:36Z")

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There’s a church here in Pittsburgh that is nothing but a museum of saint’s relics-I believe it’s on Troy Hill?

St. Anthony, I think. My parents took us years ago, and now I’m ashamed to say I was a bored, snotty teenager at the time and barely paid attention. (Until I saw a skull, that was pretty cool at the time).

Now, I’d love to go back. Even though I’m not a practicing Catholic, I have to say, I find stuff like that fascinating-it’s the historian in me.

I guess it’s like a precious memento. It would be like your favorite childhood toy, or your grandmother’s wedding veil.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/29 "2003-12-08T05:20:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \*  
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> Two, four, six, eight,  
> Time to transubstantiate \*\*

Teehee!!! Did you make that up?

I’m never going to be able to sit through Mass (I do go on special occassions, because I like the music and such), without hearing this!

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/30 "2003-12-08T05:22:02Z")

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Two words.

Hate speech.

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/31 "2003-12-08T05:22:15Z")

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I wish I did, but that’s from the great Tom Lehrer, the song is called “The Vatican Rag.”

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/32 "2003-12-08T05:23:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by milroyj \*  
> \*\*Two words.
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> Hate speech. \*\*

Why do you hate speech?

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**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/33 "2003-12-08T05:29:26Z")

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Why are you being a jerk?

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/34 "2003-12-08T05:47:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Satisfying Andy Licious \*  
> \*\*Why do you hate speech? \*\*

**milroy** ’s plotting to be a mime.

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/35 "2003-12-08T05:48:29Z")

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Mime bashing is fun!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/36 "2003-12-08T07:02:19Z")

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Isn’t a church from the Iron age celebrating medievil traditions rather progressive?

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/37 "2003-12-08T07:18:25Z")

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See, that’s hate-not-speech against mimes! Oh, the clowns and their Clown Lifestyle Agenda are off limits, but mimes are perfectly ok to bash! More evidence of the Clown Wing slant on the boards and in the Clown Media!

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**Author:** ![Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Satisfying\_Andy\_Licious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satisfying_Andy_Licious)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/38 "2003-12-08T07:20:23Z")

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Sadly, the mimes have no voice here.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/39 "2003-12-08T07:21:50Z")

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Being a Clown isn’t a choice or a lifestyle. It just is.

All those _other_ people are freaks, though.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2003, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/medieval-superstions-alive-well/217522/40 "2003-12-08T07:32:04Z")

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> If someone started a thread mocking Muslim beliefs, it would be called hate-speech, not sarcasm.

I dunno about that. I think Muslim beliefs are pretty stupid as beliefs go, and that’s not said out of hate. But seeing as its a rather distant and obscure topic, I rarely have cause to talk about em. C.S Lewis pretty much mocked atheists in many of his fiction and non-fiction works, but I don’t run around saying it’s hate speech, just dumb. And if, unlike Lewis, the mocking is more jovial than vicious, I wouldn’t even see it as particularly jerkish.

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