# Meenie7's invisible friend **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409 "2008-07-22T19:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/81 "2008-07-23T03:47:38Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I’ll warn you, as I stated quite clearly in the other thread, when I belive you are harming the board, as a moderator. I’ll warn **meenie7** when I believe she is harming the board, as a moderator. [/quote] I haven’t asked you to warn **meenie**. I don’t know that she’s breaking any rules but if she really sufferes from schizophrenia or some other psychotic condition, then it is not just some harmess personality quirk, and she should not be encouraged to believe that all is well. > [@](#): > > In the meantime, there is no reason I cannot post my feelings as a member. Of course. But that’s all _I’m_ doing as well. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/82 "2008-07-23T03:51:00Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Can’t you ever just be nice? [/QUOTE] I’m thinking no. I have to admit, when I read the original thread I was a bit surprised that people were responding so normally to **meenie** ’s story. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t. Maybe she’s crazy. Maybe she’s pulling our legs. But she’s keeping it limited to that thread and unlike **lekatt** she’s not spewing shit in multiple threads, and she even admits her story sounds like BS and that she’s fine with people not believing. I think her story is weird and I’m not sure what to make of it, but rather than accuse her of being a liar or being insane I preferred to pass it over and get on with my day. **DtC** has a right to be a dick, I suppose. As he likes to demonstrate as often as possible. At least it generates reading material. I always imagined being a dick would consume more energy that it’d be worth, but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/83 "2008-07-23T03:52:37Z")
Has it now become rude not to accept preposterous claims at face value? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/84 "2008-07-23T03:56:39Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Has it now become rude not to accept preposterous claims at face value? [/QUOTE] She said she would submit to testing, just not right this second. Instead you start a pit thread about it. If you were truly concerned about **meenie’s** well-being, you could have sent a PM. For my next wish, I’ll say that if you’re going to be a dick, at least own up to it. I actually like your balls-to-the-wall attitude **Dio** , but I hate it when you pretend you’re some infallible fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/85 "2008-07-23T03:57:03Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] If she’s lying, then she’s a troll. [/QUOTE] You are aware that making up stories does not automatically mean “troll”, yes? Case in point: **Master Wang-Ka**. ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/86 "2008-07-23T04:03:34Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Has it now become rude not to accept preposterous claims at face value? [/QUOTE] No one asked you to accept it. That’s a far cry from being all bent out of shape that the Legions of Skepticism didn’t all leap in to eviscerate me. Also, this? [QUOTE=Autolycus] So what’s everyone supposed to do, just drop the subject after it goes to GD? Start pounding meenie’s vag with the fist of wisdom? [/quote] Made me laugh hysterically. Thanks, Auto. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/87 "2008-07-23T04:04:23Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] She said she would submit to testing, just not right this second. [/quote] So she _says_ she’ll submit to a meaningless, unverifiable test sometimes at some indeterminate future date. Yeah, that pretty rigorous alright. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/88 "2008-07-23T04:06:25Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Has it now become rude not to accept preposterous claims at face value? [/QUOTE] Everything is rude to these idiots. I really feel like most of the people sticking up for meenie are just spoiling for a fight in some passive aggressive way. She’s obviously trolling and no one wants to call her out on it because she keeps putting smiley faces in her posts. And perhaps because it’s _so_ erudite and open-minded to accept her whacked-out lies/“beliefs”. In the slim-to-none-and-slim’s-got-one-foot-across-the-county-line chance that she actually believes this garbage, Diogenes is still serving a purpose by alerting her to the fact that she needs to have herself committed ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/89 "2008-07-23T04:06:37Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] So she _says_ she’ll submit to a meaningless, unverifiable test sometimes at some indeterminate future date. Yeah, that pretty rigorous alright. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] What is this, the National Institute of Dickface Sciences? Don’t you have hobbies? Can’t you just let someone be wrong on the internet, for the love of little apples? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/90 "2008-07-23T04:06:39Z")
[QUOTE=meenie7] No one asked you to accept it. That’s a far cry from being all bent out of shape that the Legions of Skepticism didn’t all leap in to eviscerate me. [/QUOTE] If you’re posting in in GD, you’re submitting it for critique. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/91 "2008-07-23T04:08:34Z")
[QUOTE=meenie7] What is this, the National Institute of Dickface Sciences? Don’t you have hobbies? Can’t you just let someone be wrong on the internet, for the love of little apples? [/QUOTE] It’s not you being wrong that bothers me so much as the lapse of critical standards in the debate forum. ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/92 "2008-07-23T04:09:40Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] In the slim-to-none-and-slim’s-got-one-foot-across-the-county-line chance that she actually believes this garbage, Diogenes is still serving a purpose by alerting her to the fact that she needs to have herself committed ASAP. [/QUOTE] Yep, a perfectly functional person with a full time job, grad school plans and no other signs of mental illness should be committed to the boobie hatch over something that has so little impact on her public life that no one knows about it unless she tells them. Sure, dude. Here’s a smilie just for you –\> :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/93 "2008-07-23T04:09:40Z")
Just give it up **meenie**. These guys have impressive stamina. They will keep this up for pages if you let them. It’s better to just drop the subject. Forgive and don’t forget, etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/94 "2008-07-23T04:12:17Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Everything is rude to these idiots. I really feel like most of the people sticking up for meenie are just spoiling for a fight in some passive aggressive way. She’s obviously trolling and no one wants to call her out on it because she keeps putting smiley faces in her posts. And perhaps because it’s _so_ erudite and open-minded to accept her whacked-out lies/“beliefs”. In the slim-to-none-and-slim’s-got-one-foot-across-the-county-line chance that she actually believes this garbage, Diogenes is still serving a purpose by alerting her to the fact that she needs to have herself committed ASAP. [/QUOTE] Thanks, **Cisco**. I always knew I liked you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/95 "2008-07-23T04:13:17Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Just give it up **meenie**. These guys have impressive stamina. They will keep this up for pages if you let them. It’s better to just drop the subject. Forgive and don’t forget, etc etc. [/QUOTE] True enough. 🙂 Not like this thread showed me anything I didn’t already know about the OP and his friends, anyway. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/96 "2008-07-23T04:15:12Z")
[QUOTE=meenie7] Yep, a perfectly functional person with a full time job, grad school plans and no other signs of mental illness should be committed to the boobie hatch over something that has so little impact on her public life that no one knows about it unless she tells them. Sure, dude. Here’s a smilie just for you –\> :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Heh – “no other signs of mental illness” except for the hallucinations. Other than that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln? In all sincerity, you should talk to someone. It doesn’t mean you’re going to be committed, but people don’t live happily ever after with untreated schzo disorders. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/97 "2008-07-23T04:16:06Z")
For impartiality’s sake. you do need to lay off the smiley faces **meens**. It goes against the grain here. ---
**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/98 "2008-07-23T04:24:21Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] For impartiality’s sake. you do need to lay off the smiley faces **meens**. It goes against the grain here. [/QUOTE] Good point. I tend to use them when I’m nervous or I feel like what I say might make people mad or something. Sort of as a way to defuse the situation. But I have been overusing them in these threads and can stop. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/99 "2008-07-23T04:57:08Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] That depends on whether she really believes what she’s saying or not. If she’s lying, then she’s a troll. If she thinks she’s telling the truth then she’s deluded and people should not be humoring her. [/QUOTE] Let’s see. 1. Deluded and schizo. 2. Deluded, but not schizo. 3. A liar, and a SDMB troll, one who posts inflammatory statements to annoy or instigate a strong response. 4. A liar, who likes the attention IRL. 5. A bullshit artist. 6. Somebody who likes the RL attention, but is not a committed fabricator. They just agree to disagree. There are probably other variants. I’ve merely skimmed the threads in question (you’ve been warned), but I’m guessing that it’s not #1 or #3. Recall the subset of psychic phonies who never received a dime for their reports, for example the sisters who photographed images of the [Cottingley fairies](http://www.randi.org/library/cottingley/). FWIW, I can’t see the harm in meenie7 getting a professional assessment. Best to keep tabs on these things. IANAD, but I seem to recall Cecil writing about people who hallucinate but manage to function reasonably well. Heck, it could be sleep paralysis for all I know. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409/100 "2008-07-23T04:59:37Z")
[QUOTE=meenie7] Yep, a perfectly functional person with a full time job, grad school plans and no other signs of mental illness should be committed to the boobie hatch over something that has so little impact on her public life that no one knows about it unless she tells them. Sure, dude. Here’s a smilie just for you –\> :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] But the thing of it is, you have said repeatedly in the GD thread that you have kept Marcus to yourself precisely because you’re scared that your family/parents would think you’re insane. You even indicated that it would have real, serious effects on your life and you don’t want to deal with. The fear of this came through so strongly to me that I wondered if you had experience with being committed or at least dealing with mental health professionals. You’ve also admitted that you feel isolated and alone, and it’s difficult for you to form long-term, meaningful relationships (and the one living friend you have currently lives in CA which further increases your isolation). If I just give you the benefit of the doubt and accept everything you say at face-value, I would be concerned that maybe you _aren’t_ a perfectly functional person (absent of the ghost issue). Quite frankly, I don’t think you see ghosts, and I don’t think you’re delusional, and I don’t think you’re lying. I think you invented the perfect friend who would never leave you and the thought comforts you. That’s groovy for you. But you cannot expect to post about it on the SDMB (or really anywhere on the Internet) and not expect people to call you on it. Sorry, but that’s just not how it works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meenie7s-invisible-friend/457409.md?page=6)