# Meet Pinguin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881 "2011-04-10T18:13:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/61 "2011-04-11T13:50:57Z")

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“GDP v. GDP per capita” is a subtlety?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/62 "2011-04-11T13:58:26Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> If a worlwide known Nobel Prize winner, said such a stupidity about black people, just imagine the quality and impartiality of such profesion.

I dunno. William Shockley’s later research isn’t making my computer fail.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/63 "2011-04-11T15:15:34Z")

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> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> …Defending The Bell Curve is spitting against the wind at this point. Which isn’t, of course, to say that there is _no_ genetic component to intelligence.

Of course a continent with less education is going to perform badly if compared to others. Education cost money. So, it doesn’t make sense to look for “genetical” origins to economical problems.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/64 "2011-04-11T15:34:10Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Well you should be. The Inuits are obviously superior. You ever see a white guy build a house out of nothing but water? You ever see a black guy hunt a motherfucking whale with nothing but a crappy row-boat and a sharp stick. Ever see a Latino master water-bending? Inuits are the master-race, and you mind as well go volunteer to work on one of their blubber plantations now before they take over and make you do it.

**Simplicio** , you rock. IMO, you won this thread. We can all go home now.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/65 "2011-04-11T15:45:25Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Well you should be. The Inuits are obviously superior. You ever see a white guy build a house out of nothing but water? You ever see a black guy hunt a motherfucking whale with nothing but a crappy row-boat and a sharp stick. Ever see a Latino master water-bending? Inuits are the master-race, and you mind as well go volunteer to work on one of their blubber plantations now before they take over and make you do it.

Inuits are very smart people, indeed. but sorry, our natives hunted whales like the Inuits, with inflatable boats :D. But after all Inuits, Chinese and Amerindians are the same race, aren’t they? Your future bosses, if the economical trend continues with China rising and the U.S. economy melts down 😃

And yes, Inuits invented the arch a lot earlier than the white man 😃

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/66 "2011-04-15T04:37:23Z")

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I think the mythic depopulation of Latin America has lead to it being a non-Western, Third World geographic area.

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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/67 "2011-04-15T08:22:40Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I think the mythic depopulation of Latin America has lead to it being a non-Western, Third World geographic area.

A non-Western, Third World geographic area that lags behind Africa, but is still developing faster than New Guinea. 😉

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/68 "2011-04-15T11:27:36Z")

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> [@Blake](#):
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> A non-Western, Third World geographic area that lags behind Africa, but is still developing faster than New Guinea. 😉

That can only be proved with genetical evidence.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/69 "2011-04-15T11:43:53Z")

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Or by citing a scene from a \*Tarzan \*movie.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/70 "2011-04-15T12:25:05Z")

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Oh Tarzan! I remember the time when I loved Africa. So primitive and brute. But, I know, it was fantasy, and politically incorrect children tales. By the way, Eddie Murphy is going to make the remake of Tarzan, isn’t? Filmed in New Guinea, of course.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/71 "2011-04-15T14:22:25Z")

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It’s okay, pinguin. You’re just a third world minority. Who is less evolved because you are closer in number in generations to the stone age.

> [@Another Africa thread hijacked](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-africa-thread-hijacked/576767/480):
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> The Republican Party is the Party of the rich. The Democrat Party is the party for third world minorities that are less evolved because they are closer in number of generations to the stone age.

You want to handle this guy? As I understand it, you’re a specialist in South American genetics. (click on the right facing blue arrow in the quote to go to the post.)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/72 "2011-04-15T14:32:33Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> Oh Tarzan! I remember the time when I loved Africa. So primitive and brute. But, I know, it was fantasy, and politically incorrect children tales. By the way, Eddie Murphy is going to make the remake of Tarzan, isn’t? Filmed in New Guinea, of course.

Why is it that when I read that post, the voice in my head sounds like that (Italian?) guy who is one of the judges on Dancing with the Stars?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/73 "2011-04-15T14:34:13Z")

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I guess y’all already figured it out. But I don’t think pinguin is a is a troll because s/he’s discussed other stuff, and because s/he actually backs down when people get upset. I think it’s the language barrier that is throwing off our troll-dar.

And just to make it explicit: Are you a “she” or “he,” **pinguin**?

(For everyone else, of course I mean the preferred pronoun. I don’t give a crap if pinguin is male or female. I just want to know which pronoun to use.)

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/74 "2011-04-15T14:37:13Z")

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Clearly, it’s time to stop pretending to take him seriously, and lump him into the “point and laugh” camp.

> [@pinguin](#):
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> our natives hunted whales like the Inuits, with inflatable boats.

Why were your people hunting Inuits? To steal their inflatable boats?

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/75 "2011-04-15T14:49:16Z")

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**Smeghead** : I think they were just jealous of the Inuit’s l33t ice block arch construction skills.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/76 "2011-04-15T14:52:15Z")

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I don’t think he’s a troll. He’s just yet another new guy who thinks he’s got “the answer(s)” and has to educumate us ignoramooses.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/77 "2011-04-15T15:07:15Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t think he’s a troll. He’s just yet another new guy who thinks he’s got “the answer(s)” and has to educumate us ignoramooses.

Could be worse; he could have an ‘[exciting business opportunity to accumulate endless wealth](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway#Pyramid_scheme_accusations)’ to share with us.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/78 "2011-04-15T17:25:29Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> No, but you are doing the equivalent of the creationist that, being unable to teach creationism directly, then will teach the “controversy”.

Nope, you are the creationist in this debate. You reject the science because it doesn’t jibe with your beliefs about the world. Just like a creationist.

Also, anyone have a cite for any SDMB poster\* who thinks people of any racial group are inherently and irredeemably superior to people of any other racial group? Someone upthread intimated that lots of posters here believe that–I’d like to see their evidence for it. What’s actually happening is that many people don’t understand what me and Chen and Chief Pedant etc. are actually saying and just think “they are racists.”  
\*Except for the one actual white supremacist who came over here from that one site (C\_\_O\_\_.com).

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/79 "2011-04-15T18:06:22Z")

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I’m pronouncing “Pinguin” with nasalized vowels, as if it were French. Anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/meet-pinguin/577881/80 "2011-04-15T19:31:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> That “presumably” is precisely why you can not be relied upon, The problem was using “race”.

???

So you would feel better if he said “populations that roughly correspond to what we call race” have differences in IQ"

???

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