# Megan Kelly wtf?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 27, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437 "2017-09-27T16:57:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/41 "2017-09-29T00:02:41Z")

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Grand Theft Auto 5’s parody, Weazel News.  
Weazel News: Confirming Your Prejudices

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lW7DgiAIUr0/maxresdefault.jpg "Grand Theft Auto V: Weazel News #4 (Father/Son)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7DgiAIUr0)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/42 "2018-10-25T15:42:12Z")

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I searched and didn’t see a new thread but I did find this one with an appropriate title all ready and waiting so…[Kelly absent from show following blackface comments](https://apnews.com/1e03a0ffc8424ea883a7cde148f3152a)!

I saw a blurb yesterday or the day before about Megan Kelly making blackface comments on her show and now I see this article, with these tidbits (helpfully bolded):

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> Megyn Kelly is absent from her NBC morning show **with questions swirling about whether her time at the network is coming to an end** following this week’s controversy over her comments about blackface.
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> An NBC spokeswoman said Thursday that “given the circumstances,” the network was airing repeats of “Megyn Kelly Today” Thursday and Friday.
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> During a segment on Halloween costumes on Tuesday, Kelly said dressing in blackface was acceptable when she was a kid if portraying a character, and expressed sympathy for a character in “Real Wives of New York” who darkened her face for a Diana Ross costume.
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> She apologized later in the day and on her show Wednesday, **but there are published reports that her time at NBC could end soon**. NBC didn’t comment on those reports Thursday.

Oh no! :eek: Where will she peddle her hate and lies and bullshit now? 😕

Maybe Alex Jones can make some room for her at InfoWars, or maybe Glenn Beck over at The Blaze…

😃

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/43 "2018-10-25T16:00:53Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I searched and didn’t see a new thread but I did find this one with an appropriate title all ready and waiting so…[Kelly absent from show following blackface comments](https://apnews.com/1e03a0ffc8424ea883a7cde148f3152a)!
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> I saw a blurb yesterday or the day before about Megan Kelly making blackface comments on her show and now I see this article, with these tidbits (helpfully bolded):Oh no! :eek: Where will she peddle her hate and lies and bullshit now? 😕
> 
> Maybe Alex Jones can make some room for her at InfoWars, or maybe Glenn Beck over at The Blaze…
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> 😃

Even discussing a topic and sharing an anecdote is enough to get in trouble at work? Where’s that pc run amok thread?

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/44 "2018-10-25T16:19:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Even discussing a topic and sharing an anecdote is enough to get in trouble at work? Where’s that pc run amok thread?

When your job is to do lighthearted entertainment and you drift off into how in the “good ol days” it was OK to be offensive, well…yeah.

I’m guessing that you’re incapable of understanding that.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/45 "2018-10-25T16:26:31Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Even discussing a topic and sharing an anecdote is enough to get in trouble at work? Where’s that pc run amok thread?

What discussion? She said blackface was acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/46 "2018-10-25T16:27:50Z")

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I try to never lose sight of the fact that conservatives that hate Trump are still conservatives. We may hold common ground on one issue, andd it’s a big one - but I still disagree with them on most everything else.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/47 "2018-10-25T16:42:19Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Even discussing a topic and sharing an anecdote is enough to get in trouble at work? Where’s that pc run amok thread?

Newsflash – there are other people in workplaces, and the things you say might have an impact on those other people. Especially if your job is public-facing, and you have an audience to dealth. _Of course_ the things you say might affect how you are treated at work. It boggles the mind that anyone could think that one shouldn’t suffer consequences no matter what one says at work (or elsewhere).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/48 "2018-10-25T16:47:29Z")

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Bye-bye, bitch. I look forward to you being dumped out the bottom of the porn industry in a few years.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/49 "2018-10-25T16:47:34Z")

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Daily Mail is reporting that she is out at NBC… and NBC gets to eat the entire $69m cost of her contract.

> <https://twitter.com/DailyMail/status/1055486850662649861>

Haven’t seen a second citation on this, btw.

Will say, if NBC pays her the $69 million and she has to remain off the air for the duration of the contract, then NBC gave us _all_ a very welcome early Christmas present.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/50 "2018-10-25T16:48:08Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Newsflash – there are other people in workplaces, and the things you say might have an impact on those other people. Especially if your job is public-facing, and you have an audience to dealth. _Of course_ the things you say might affect how you are treated at work. It boggles the mind that anyone could think that one shouldn’t suffer consequences no matter what one says at work (or elsewhere).

Wait, so I can’t share amusing anecdotes about strippers and prostitutes while I am at work?

PC RUN AMOK!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/51 "2018-10-25T16:55:43Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Wait, so I can’t share amusing anecdotes about strippers and prostitutes while I am at work?
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> PC RUN AMOK!

Well, I think it’s ok if you are a stripper or a prostitute.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/52 "2018-10-25T17:03:24Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Well, I think it’s ok if you are a stripper or a prostitute.

Hmmmmmm…(ponders career change).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/53 "2018-10-25T17:14:04Z")

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[They’re “in talks”. 😃](https://apnews.com/4544a5ec19207caa0a18712dd2c32ebe)

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> Just one year after debuting “Megyn Kelly Today” on NBC News, the former Fox News primetime star is in talks to leave her 9 a.m. daytime show, according to reports.
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> Ms. Kelly and NBC News are discussing her taking a new role at the network, a person who has spoken with the anchor told Variety. Two sources told CNN that Ms. Kelly’s exit from the daytime show is imminent, but that there is some discrepancy on when.
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> She is still slated to take part in NBC News’ election-night coverage on Nov. 6, reports said.
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> The discussions reportedly began well before Ms. Kelly apologized this week amid backlash over her comments on blackface Halloween costumes, which sparked condemnation from her NBC colleagues Al Roker, Craig Melvin and network Chairman Andy Lack.
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> Ms. Kelly has since parted ways with her talent agency, CAA, and she has hired attorney Bryan Freedman, CNN reported.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/54 "2018-10-25T17:16:36Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Hmmmmmm…(ponders career change).

The tips are small…but the money is good.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/55 "2018-10-25T17:24:03Z")

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This is the kind of thing that I hate. The context of her recent comment was about dressing up as people you admire for Halloween, and if that person is black, what’s wrong with darkening your skin? Diana Ross was the example she was giving.

Now let’s be clear. She is wrong. Blackface has a long tradition of being used to mock people of color. She should know this, and know that because of this it’s not socially acceptable. Her comment was wrong and stupid.

She was not being deliberately racist though.

On an interview I saw Jaimie Fox talked about Robert Downey Jr. wearing blackface for Tropic Thunder, and about comedians who go too far and cross the line with their comments.

Jaimie said (my paraphrase,). There are people that are out to get you. There are people that hate you. Those are the people you go after, not artists, or actors, or comedians who make a slip or push a boundary. They are not out to get you.

Megan Kelly was not trying to hurt anybody. She was not promoting racism. She is simply a twit.

This gotcha moment where she is going to get nailed to the cross by the enlightened masses for her racism and insensitivity is contemptible.

Go fight the enemy.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/56 "2018-10-25T17:32:42Z")

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She is going to get fired from a low-rated talk/news show because of her insensitivity. It’s not exactly a heavy cross.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/57 "2018-10-25T17:36:13Z")

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Near as I can tell, there’s a difference between blackface and makeup which resembles a person of another race. The old-time minstrels wearing blackface didn’t resemble actual black people; they resembled a distorted, racist caricature of black people, and used it as a context to perform racist acts, and that’s what made it offensive. What Kelly is describing is completely different from that.

Now, I can see that the two are likely to be conflated, and so someone with a modicum of historical awareness should probably also avoid the sort of makeup Kelly is describing, so as to avoid offensiveness by association. But I’m still not sure that that’s the sort of offense that one should be fired over, especially not when she’s done so many other offensive things and gotten away with them.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/58 "2018-10-25T17:41:01Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> This is the kind of thing that I hate. The context of her recent comment was about dressing up as people you admire for Halloween, and if that person is black, what’s wrong with darkening your skin? Diana Ross was the example she was giving.
> 
> Now let’s be clear. She is wrong. Blackface has a long tradition of being used to mock people of color. She should know this, and know that because of this it’s not socially acceptable. Her comment was wrong and stupid.
> 
> She was not being deliberately racist though.
> 
> On an interview I saw Jaimie Fox talked about Robert Downey Jr. wearing blackface for Tropic Thunder, and about comedians who go too far and cross the line with their comments.
> 
> Jaimie said (my paraphrase,). There are people that are out to get you. There are people that hate you. Those are the people you go after, not artists, or actors, or comedians who make a slip or push a boundary. They are not out to get you.
> 
> Megan Kelly was not trying to hurt anybody. She was not promoting racism. She is simply a twit.
> 
> This gotcha moment where she is going to get nailed to the cross by the enlightened masses for her racism and insensitivity is contemptible.
> 
> Go fight the enemy.

She was criticized and mocked for her idiocy, and that seems perfectly appropriate to me (say something idiotic, and people will treat you like an idiot for a little while). But I think her apology was decent, and it doesn’t appear that she’s getting fired for this (and I don’t think this warrants firing, considering her apology). If her role is changing in the network, that’s most likely because her show sucks and gets terrible ratings.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/59 "2018-10-25T18:02:57Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> She was criticized and mocked for her idiocy, and that seems perfectly appropriate to me (say something idiotic, and people will treat you like an idiot for a little while). But I think her apology was decent, and it doesn’t appear that she’s getting fired for this (and I don’t think this warrants firing, considering her apology). If her role is changing in the network, that’s most likely because her show sucks and gets terrible ratings.

Why should she have to apologize? Why is this even a thing?

She is a twit. Her job is to be a twit. She literally says stupid things, and people correct her and explain the subtleties. That is her modus operandi. The audience gets to have things explained to them through the dialectic.  
Why would anybody be angry and go after for this?

It’s a pile on, it’s bullying from the 3rd grade. We’ll pick out the person who makes a mistake and deviates from the complex and esoteric rules that compromise the social norm.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/megan-kelly-wtf/797437/60 "2018-10-25T18:07:31Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> Blackface has a long tradition of being used to mock people of color. She should know this, and know that because of this it’s not socially acceptable. Her comment was wrong and stupid.
> 
> She was not being deliberately racist though.

Ignorance is not a defense. Her ignorance isn’t accidental, it’s a product of her disinterest in the topic. A disinterest only blunted by the fact that her big paycheck was put in jeopardy.

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