# Mehitabel, I am married. Start stalking someone else. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371 "2004-11-06T18:39:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/141 "2004-11-11T07:07:27Z")
> [@](#): > > **Rubystreak** : Also, you do acknowledge the infuriating hypocrisy of a poster who attacks America and the West over and over while never revealing his own country of origin? I used to go round and round with **Aldebaran** in defense of our Constitution and against some of the generalizations that he made. At that time he had told us his whereabouts. Sometimes I tried to draw parallels or contrast the two countries – or even use what little I knew as a weapon. Then, for some reason or another, I realized I was just being an ass and confirming his negative opinions of Americans. I _don’t_ consider it hypocrisy that he doesn’t tell us where he lives. As others have mentioned, the freedom to post freely is not legal in all countries. That may or may not be the reason he doesn’t say. It isn’t my business and I don’t need to insult his country in order to discuss mine. Pax ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/142 "2004-11-11T07:39:22Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > I used to go round and round with **Aldebaran** in defense of our Constitution and against some of the generalizations that he made. At that time he had told us his whereabouts. Sometimes I tried to draw parallels or contrast the two countries – or even use what little I knew as a weapon. Then, for some reason or another, I realized I was just being an ass and confirming his negative opinions of Americans. I see what you’re saying about the futility of going 'round and 'round with Aldebaran and his generalizations, but I really don’t see how you drawing parallels or contrasts between your country of origin and his makes you an ass. If he is claiming his culture is superior (is he? I really don’t know), then you are perfectly justified in calling him on it. I _don’t_ consider it hypocrisy that he doesn’t tell us where he lives. As others have mentioned, the freedom to post freely is not legal in all countries. That may or may not be the reason he doesn’t say. It isn’t my business and I don’t need to insult his country in order to discuss mine. Pax [/QUOTE] No one is saying one must have the ability to insult another poster’s country. It does smack of a deliberate deception in order to dodge debate points. He could e-mail Mehitabel privately and tell her he is not at liberty to reveal his country of origin due to fear of reprisals. I think she’s a decent enough person to take the hint. Instead, he insults her right back, in a very public and inflammatory way. I don’t believe he wants to resolve anything with her, if this thread is any evidence. JMO based on his behavior in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/143 "2004-11-11T12:01:56Z")
Well, in my viewu the refusal of any moderator to react to my reports and to answer my question in post 128 and to close this thread as I ask both on the board and by reporting that post, says more then words couod ever do. Maybe the administrator can once again come on board to post the location she thinks the IP that use now has, in order to once again help poor Mehitabel and to ensure her by this that she has in her stalking, harrassing, deliberately spreading false informaton with as only aim to cause confusion and to divert the focus of discussions to “where I live” etc… every support of the moderators and administrators of this website. I still wonder wh ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/144 "2004-11-11T12:18:53Z")
I still wonder what would happen if I did the same as Mehitabel does since about 17 months non-stop to any at random chosen member of this website. Yet it does not interest me since this website has lost its ability to interst me. I appreciate many of the members very much and no, Zoe (and you are among the members I appreciate very much) I do not form my impressions of countries of nations or iots citizens by what I read that is posted by idiots and bigots on a website. I have friends in the USA, I visit the USA frequently, we have business in the USA just as is the case in other nations. Furthermore I received an education that - other then I can say from what some members of this website show - in any case would prevent me from being so stupid to form my opinion about such matter relying on what is posted on a website, or on the internet in its whole for that mattersomething. Yet I do not visit a website to be continiously harassed by one obsessed member, who’s inventions and over and over again cause me trouble when posting because she influences with her repeatedly posted fantasies fantasies (and yes, this are here fantasies) other members. The more because she does this - as she herself said here once again - because of her obsession to know what I over and over again and to anyone involved declared NOT to reveil. This counts the more when such a member receives support from those working behind the screen. There are limits to masochism even when only being a cyber-identity. Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/145 "2004-11-11T12:44:49Z")
Before I go let me give poor innocent stalking Mehitabel the link to the thread I made because of my disgust with the actions of said moderator in support of Mehitabel’s stalking and because there came no answer to my mails regarding that incident. I asked that by mail and by posting that thread to explain why she did this and did not receive answer. Hence I asked her once again on a thread where she said something in the line of " I don’t not look up IP’s" to explain finally why she posted mine publicly. Only to receive ananswer by an other moderator that “she explained herself” by telling that she reveiled my IP because of **my** behaviour. (link to that post provided by a meber in this very thread) I can only understand this as: because I refused rerpeatedly and since the beginning of my posting history here to give my location to Mehitabel. The lack of reactions on this thread and on my reoprts about it can only confirm this. I was disgusted when this breach in my privacy happend, I was disgusted by the refusal of that moderator to take responsibility of her actions and to offer me the apology I in my vew certainly deserve, next I was disgusted by the answer of that other moderator, even “warning” me that I should “drop it” (no, \>I can’t drop unfinished business and unsettled disputes about such importance things as my privacy, sorry) I am digusted still and nowI am to a point of disgust that spending more time on a website where enven the moderators can’t judge impartial is in my view utterly meaningless and hence a waste of my time. Not to mention my serious concerns about what in fact really happens with the IP informations moderators and administrators have acces to. I have no single shred of confidence left and hence I can not post here anymore. Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/146 "2004-11-11T12:46:40Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=268206&highlight=moderators](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=268206&highlight=moderators) Now read this and find out “where I live” Mehitabel. Enjoy. I don’t think we shall ever meet. Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/147 "2004-11-11T14:33:23Z")
Couldn’t you just leave a little faster? Drama queen. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/148 "2004-11-11T14:50:16Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Couldn’t you just leave a little faster? > > Drama queen. :rolleyes: What’s the over/under on when he pops back in? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/149 "2004-11-11T15:16:34Z")
Under a week, but hope spring eternal. ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/150 "2004-11-11T16:20:54Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Couldn’t you just leave a little faster? > > Drama queen. :rolleyes: Don’t you think this is rather petty - as I’ve said before, I like Aldebaran’s posts here, I hope that he changes his mind about staying, and that this thread puts an end [finally] to speculation about his location. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/151 "2004-11-11T18:17:26Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Don’t you think this is rather petty - as I’ve said before, I like Aldebaran’s posts here, I hope that he changes his mind about staying, and that this thread puts an end [finally] to speculation about his location. Nope. I need a new **Aldebaran** post like I need a new hole in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/152 "2004-11-11T19:24:31Z")
**Aldebaran** IS a drama queen, because he got what he wanted: before he decided to quit the SDMB: > [@Mehitabel](#): > > That person might be ‘justified’ in some ways, but she’s also wrong. I never intended to be that person but this thread has made me understand that I just might be turning that way. I don’t want that. > > So, while I didn’t break through to the mind that invited me into this thread, I hope I’ve come out a better poster. Let me know, nicely, in other threads if I start screwing up–I’m only an alley cat, remember. **Mehitabel** admitted to being wrong and says she’ll stop bothering him. What the hell more does he want? My god. :rolleyes: I feel he has finally proved my thesis about him correct–he didn’t open this thread to resolve things with her, just to start another fight. Even if you think Mehitabel has behaved abominably, she has now recanted. If Aldebaran expects an apology, he may be pushing his luck, so one would hope he could be satisfied with an admission of guilt and a promise to try to change. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/153 "2004-11-14T05:54:20Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Don’t you think this is rather petty - as I’ve said before, I like Aldebaran’s posts here, I hope that he changes his mind about staying, and that this thread puts an end [finally] to speculation about his location. You like his posts. I – and clearly many others find – that he generates more heat than light, does nothing to fight ignorance and is so intentionally polarizing and obtuse in the threads that he participates in that his presence isn’t all that useful anyway. If he had spent as much time honestly sharing perspectives about real issues as he had making things all about him, personally, we might all have learned something by now. The sum total of what we’ve learned from Aldebaran in his 18 months on these boards is so inconsequential as to render his footstomping declaration the height of unsavory, egocentric whining. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/154 "2004-11-14T10:06:15Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > Before I go let me give poor innocent stalking Mehitabel the link to the thread I made because of my disgust with the actions of said moderator in support of Mehitabel’s stalking and because there came no answer to my mails regarding that incident. > > I asked that by mail and by posting that thread to explain why she did this and did not receive answer. Hence I asked her once again on a thread where she said something in the line of " I don’t not look up IP’s" to explain finally why she posted mine publicly. Only to receive ananswer by an other moderator that “she explained herself” by telling that she reveiled my IP because of **my** behaviour. (link to that post provided by a meber in this very thread) > I can only understand this as: because I refused rerpeatedly and since the beginning of my posting history here to give my location to Mehitabel. > The lack of reactions on this thread and on my reoprts about it can only confirm this. > > I was disgusted when **this breach in my privacy happend,** I was disgusted by the refusal of that moderator to take responsibility of her actions and to offer me the apology I in my vew certainly deserve, next I was disgusted by the answer of that other moderator, even “warning” me that I should “drop it” (no, \>I can’t drop unfinished business and unsettled disputes about such importance things as my privacy, sorry) I am digusted still and nowI am to a point of disgust that spending more time on a website where enven the moderators can’t judge impartial is in my view utterly meaningless and hence a waste of my time. > Not to mention my serious concerns about what in fact really happens with the IP informations moderators and administrators have acces to. > > I have no single shred of confidence left and hence I can not post here anymore. > > Salaam. A Oh, **Alde** , sweet **halfwit**. Where to begin. You said you were worried about your proxy server being found out. (Anyone able to tell me how to use a proxy server on the SDMB?) You, **Alde** , are a punk. No, let me rephrase, as that would offend punks. You’re worthless. You hate the US and anyone living here. Specifically Bush voters. I’m one of them, so I invite you to bring it on. I have an email address available to anyone posting here. Yet you can’t post what what fucking country you’re from. (either of them) :rolleyes: I’m calling you out, tough guy. Why can’t you mention the country you’re in? Are you afraid of your government? Are you afraid of getting busted for what you’ve done? You’re posting, _as a paying member_, to an American message board. If your government is Islam-based and anti-American , like Iran, you’d be in jail by now. Otherwise, it seems you may be a terrorist in another country looking for new recruits. This would make sense if you’re posting inflammitory posts supporting Islam. After all, where better to find some fringe elements than an anonymous message board? The fact you’re still here is giving me more and more reason to flame your type. Salaam my cock, bitch. D. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Llama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@The\_Llama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Llama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/155 "2004-11-14T18:41:00Z")
Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/156 "2004-11-14T19:15:02Z")
Interesting. This thread is **still** open. Not interesting are the replies following my last post, but that is no surprise to me when looking at the names of the posters. I’m also not inclined to struggle any longer to be able to post on this message board without obsessed members following me around to post attacks, harassments and false information on me. But I’m a compassionate being and hence thinking about it that this board tells the audience that its goal is to “fight ignorance”, it can maybe add to this goal to point out that the way it is moderated seems at the very least to cause confusion. Because I see here some very clear double standards in practice and am left wondering by the day more and more about the reasons behind this. > **[Where is Sevastopol?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286492)** > > Not the city in Ukraine, the member of the SDMB. He claimed in a thread in the Pit that he knew things about the Arab-Israeli conflict that most people don’t, and he displays a pronounced pro-Arab bias in his posts on the Middle East (which I’m not... > [@MEBuckner](#): > > Moderator’s Note: I don’t think wondering where another poster actually lives constitutes a Great Debate. Also, if you just have a personal question for another poster, it would be better suited to e-mail–all posters are required to maintain a current e-mail address, which should be available by clicking on the “Send a message via email to…” link in their profile. If clicking on this link produces the message “Sorry! That user has specified that they do not wish to receive emails. If you still wish to send an email to this user, please contact the administrator and they may be able to help”, this would indicate that perhaps that user does not wish to answer personal questions from other posters on this board, which is their right. Now I finally hear the moderators speaking. I might help to restore my confidence a little bit, eventually. But can you explain me then finally how come it is OK when a member follows me around for exactly that reason, harassing me, spreading false information on me and claiming in this very thread that she does this **because** I do not wish to answer personal questions considering my location? Why it is OK that when I even open a thread to ask that member to stop this she thinks she has the backup of the moderators and administrators, which leads her to post “conditions” I should fulfil for her to be inclined to stop harassing me? (On a not directly related side note: Why is it OK for an other member to change my member name which Mehitabel also finds such a success that she does not hesitate to start using it?) Secondly: If member have [the right\*\* not to reveal any personal information, as I read today to my satisfaction, then why is it that an administrator **posted** what she perceived to be the location of one of my IP’s **because** once again I made it clear to Mehitabel that I do not say where I live, after Mehitabel once again popped up in the middle of a thread following her obsession to find out “where I live”? I now it was said after this incident (yet only after I made a thread about it) that this was not in line with the rules. I was posted in that thread of mine and also that it shall not happen again. Yet I still have no other explanation about **why** this incident happened, other then what I read here > **[Sock puppet question](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283495)** > > Several times I’ve seen someone post saying something like : Oops, that was me posting, not my flatmate. I take that as meaning that there are two dopers sharing a computer, with two seperate usernames. sometimes one accidently logs on as the... Why is it that instead of Lynn Bodoni finally explaining the matter, an other administrator came along to tell me -rather threatening, in my view - that she did this because of **my** “behaviour” = my refusal to give my location? All while now an other moderator posts on GD that it is my right not to give any personal information I do not want to give. Surely this is not a new rule? Can Lynn Bodoni not simply answer my question to clear this once and for all? I asked her by mail, I asked her on the board. Surely, if there is any other explanation then a sudden inclination to help Mehitabel “finding out” where I live or where I am at a given moment, she could have said so long ago and the matter would have been resolved once and for all. Even if it was caused by such sudden inclination, she could have said this and the matter would have been resolved. There is in my view no harm in admitting you got a bit carried away and forgot for a few moments that you were acting in your function as a moderator instead of posting in function of your normal membership. Most certainly I would be the first to understand this happening. I’m not such an innocent blank page on such matters either = I know all too well how some situations - or people - can irritate you and how this can influence your judgement and the way you approach a matter in your postings. I’ve made a lot of posts here and quite a few - especially those explaining Islam or its history - asked a lot of my time **because** I had to write them in this language. I came to appreciate a lot of the members and a lot of the input here. I would prefer to leave this message board without having the memory a bitter taste of prejudice by its administration. Salaam. A ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/157 "2004-11-14T19:44:26Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > Originally Posted by Lute Skywatcher > Then why don’t you use it? You’re obviously not, otherwise this thread wouldn’t be here. > > If I used it or not has really no relation with this thread. > The problem of Mehitabel constistently, repeatedly, non-stop posting false information about my “identity” as it is born and shaped in her vivid fantasy stays visible and hence is read by the other members. > The confusion this provokes lead repeatedly to situations where people show up in discussions and declare me to be “Belgian” (sometimes they even added that “Mehitabel said so”) and hence to them I “don’t know what I talk about” or “I am an immigrant only thinking to know what goes on while I do not live there” when I talk about my region of the world. The variations on this theme are legio. > The same when people come to read her vivid fantasies about “Aldebaran the > Saudi”. > > It is difficult enough as it is for me to write in this language. I have now more then enough of it that I have to repeat over and over again that Mehitabel has no clue about me and that what she spreads about me only lives in her fantasy. > > Salaam. A You’re a tool. I’ve never even engaged in any discussion in any of your threads but you sound like a complete tool in this one. Get over yourself bud. ---
**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/158 "2004-11-14T20:10:42Z")
> [@Aldebaran](#): > > I have no single shred of confidence left and hence I can not post here anymore. Interesting. You’re **still** here. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/159 "2004-11-14T20:17:29Z")
Should’ve known. Fundamentally dishonest right down to the bones. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371/160 "2004-11-14T20:26:25Z")
**Alderbaran** , the mods do not have a _rule_ that they’ll close a thread on request. I mentioned earlier that the rules often seem arbitrarily enforced but you cannot attribute it to any racial/religious prejudice. If there is a prejudice it is a personal one against you brought about by your posting history. I can only counsel patience and a continued lowering of your [haughtiness](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=haughty) levels. Good Luck. Don’t usually put it but I think everyone needs my sig right about here. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mehitabel-i-am-married-start-stalking-someone-else/273371.md?page=9)