# Mel Gibson dials it up to 11 with new telephone recording. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490 "2010-07-13T03:07:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/441 "2010-07-18T17:18:07Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I fail to see any point in any of that. If you don’t want to support your children, don’t have them. You really are just plainly and simply, an idiot. The vast tonnage of things you failed to see in threads on a multitude of subjects makes it plain. But you know what? I’m going outside and run a couple miles rather than waste the lifespan doing another round of you failing to see and refusing to admit. The archives here have tens of thousands of posts centering around you doing that little dance. Adding more here would just add a little steam coming off that vast mountain of shit. Bye. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/442 "2010-07-18T17:54:47Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I don’t happen to subscribe to the theory that the victim is powerless. It’s a matter of degree, and varies greatly depending on the person and on the circumstances. To put it in perspective: > [@](#): > > Leaving Abusive Partners > > According to the VAWS, a woman’s decision to leave a violent partner is motivated by factors related to the severity > of the violence, reporting to the police and having children who witnessed the violence. Many women make the decision > to leave when the violence begins to affect their children. The majority of women who left their partner stayed with friends > or relatives (77%). Another 13% stayed in transition houses or shelters, 13% moved into a place on their own, and 5% > stayed in a hotel.4 > > Not only were children a primary consideration in leaving a spouse, they were the primary consideration in the > decision to return to an abusive spouse. Seventy percent of women who left their partners eventually returned home at > least once. The most common reasons given for their decision to return were for the sake of the children (31%), wanting > to give the relationship another try (24%), partner promised to change (17%), and a lack of money or place to go (9%). This was from a Statistics Canada [report](http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-x/85-224-x1998000-eng.pdf) compiled from a Statistic Canada [survey](http://www.statcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/imdb/p2SV.pl?Function=getSurvey&SDDS=3896&lang=en&db=imdb&adm=8&dis=2), so what you have here are facts, rather than theories. Explaining why the facts are what they are is into the realm of theory, but as it stands, these and other such surveys from similar cultures present the facts. Given your posts in this thread, I strongly suggest that you read up on the subject, so that you will be better able to distinguish facts from theories that attempt to explain the facts. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/443 "2010-07-18T18:55:48Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I fail to see any point in any of that. If you don’t want to support your children, don’t have them. I don’t see why you think the income of your ex’s new husband is relevant at all. Why should he be responsible for supporting your child? You owe your kid that money. Your ex-wife doesn’t owe it. Her husband doesn’t owe. It’s your own debt, your own responsibility. Thank you. I don’t pay any one child support (or receive any for that matter) because I had the good sense to take some birth control. If you hate the thought of paying child support, there’s any easy way to not have to. . . It’s like when my clients (folks with tax problems) come in- and I shit you not, this happens WEEKLY- the guys ask me how they can get out paying their child support. And these are guys who are paying like, $100, $150 a month (which is nothing, let’s be honest). I usually just stare at them until they realize that I think they are a huge douche. Then we move on. Fuckers. Don’t have kids if you don’t want to take care of them. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/444 "2010-07-18T19:45:55Z")
> [@InterestedObserver](#): > > Oh, excuse me, I forgot that you are always RIGHT, based on FACTS (according to YOU), and anyone else’s experience or opinion which contradicts yours is, therefore, always WRONG. :rolleyes: What in the post of his you quoted is not a matter of fact? Gibson is at the very least psychologically abusive, physically abusive at worst. That makes her a victim. Those are facts. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/445 "2010-07-18T20:08:15Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Thank you. I don’t pay any one child support (or receive any for that matter) because I had the good sense to take some birth control. If you hate the thought of paying child support, there’s any easy way to not have to. . . > > It’s like when my clients (folks with tax problems) come in- and I shit you not, this happens WEEKLY- the guys ask me how they can get out paying their child support. And these are guys who are paying like, $100, $150 a month (which is nothing, let’s be honest). I usually just stare at them until they realize that I think they are a huge douche. Then we move on. Fuckers. Don’t have kids if you don’t want to take care of them. What you and the other stupid bitch don’t seem to grasp is that I don’t have any problem whatsoever supporting my child. If the money her mother gets from me was actually spent on my daughter or put away for her future, you’d hear nary a peep out of me. But no, the woman cashing the checks is the same woman whose spending habits pulled us both down into bankruptcy and who found herself a new husband with a similarly poor grasp of home finance. So, although between the two of them they make close to 200K a year, they are constantly broke, juggling payments, and all her same old habits. Thus, the money that I pay out\_or rather the state of PA automatically takes from me though I was never even late on a payment much less missed one\_goes toward maintaining the “lifestyle” of my ex and her new husband. It isn’t, in any real sense, used to support my daughter. It goes toward her mother and the husband driving new cars, eating out a couple times a week, trips to Florida in the winter, and other things that involve my daughter not at all. But you and Diogenes the Huge Flapping Vagina are the only ones who know anything. Fuck both of you. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/446 "2010-07-18T20:18:11Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > What you and the other stupid bitch don’t seem to grasp is that I don’t have any problem whatsoever supporting my child. If the money her mother gets from me was actually spent on my daughter or put away for her future, you’d hear nary a peep out of me. But no, the woman cashing the checks is the same woman whose spending habits pulled us both down into bankruptcy and who found herself a new husband with a similarly poor grasp of home finance. So, although between the two of them they make close to 200K a year, they are constantly broke, juggling payments, and all her same old habits. Thus, the money that I pay out\_or rather the state of PA automatically takes from me though I was never even late on a payment much less missed one\_goes toward maintaining the “lifestyle” of my ex and her new husband. It isn’t, in any real sense, used to support my daughter. It goes toward her mother and the husband driving new cars, eating out a couple times a week, trips to Florida in the winter, and other things that involve my daughter not at all. But you and Diogenes the Huge Flapping Vagina are the only ones who know anything. Fuck both of you. I’m sorry, maybe you want to stop and fish that sand out of your vagina before we continue this discussion. There, now doesn’t that feel better? I was afraid you were so wound up you were going to make a pearl up there. I don’t disagree that maybe your ex is a big, nasty, user cunt. Sounds like she is. But unless she got a brain tumor midway through your relationship that severely effected how she behaves, she’s always been like this. You chose to put your dick in that pile of crazy, you chose to impregnate her, you chose to make a lifelong pact with this lady. You appear to have known the kind of person she is and you chose to knock her up anyway, what did you think was going to happen? Despite all that, if you think your child support is unjust, you have plenty of recourse to fix the situation. The fact of the matter is though: Mel Gibson is very, very wealthy. If he has to pay $30k a month for his child to maintain the lifestyle with which it has been raised thus far, it is no different than the shitty dead beats I can encounter that bitch about paying $150 a month. Ultimately, if he didn’t want to end up paying out each month, it was very easily avoidable: don’t put tab a into slot b. Sorry, no sympathy for Gibson if he has to pay out. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/447 "2010-07-18T20:26:31Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > What you and the other stupid bitch don’t seem to grasp is that I don’t have any problem whatsoever supporting my child. If the money her mother gets from me was actually spent on my daughter or put away for her future, you’d hear nary a peep out of me. But no, the woman cashing the checks is the same woman whose spending habits pulled us both down into bankruptcy and who found herself a new husband with a similarly poor grasp of home finance. So, although between the two of them they make close to 200K a year, they are constantly broke, juggling payments, and all her same old habits. Thus, the money that I pay out\_or rather the state of PA automatically takes from me though I was never even late on a payment much less missed one\_goes toward maintaining the “lifestyle” of my ex and her new husband. It isn’t, in any real sense, used to support my daughter. It goes toward her mother and the husband driving new cars, eating out a couple times a week, trips to Florida in the winter, and other things that involve my daughter not at all. But you and Diogenes the Huge Flapping Vagina are the only ones who know anything. Fuck both of you. Weren’t you going to go run a couple of miles? Maybe you should go run a few more. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/448 "2010-07-18T20:44:44Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Again, I am not upset at anyone in this thread or on this board. I simply do not care enough about you, **Dio** , **Sleeps With Butterflies** , or anyone else to the point that anger would well up inside me. Your speech is nice, but it doesn’t answer the real question, does it? i.e. why didn’t she leave? That is not “the real question,” and you didn’t answer mine. What difference does it make? By virtue of the fact that you’re asking the question, you’re suggesting the answer makes a material difference to something. So tell us why. You haven’t, and that’s why if you aren’t a coward, you’re coincidentally acting exactly like a lot of cowards who have come before you who don’t want to deal directly with the implications of their victim-blaming, but feel obliged to blame the victim regardless. > [@](#): > > My initial point, as I’ve said in this post (and previous posts) is that even though things may look cut and dry to the public, the law is a different thing. Clearly it is. If it weren’t, Mel would be in jail right now for making the threats he made on those tapes. I’m curious as to why he hasn’t been arrested already if he admitted to hitting her in the face and breaking her teeth. Maybe you (or someone that knows the DV laws in California) could answer that. What’s the difference? What does that have to do with her being a gold digger? What does that have to do with how long or why she might have stayed in the relationship? This is what I’m talking about. Don’t just ask questions and leave it to the reader to determine what they all have in common. Mel Gibson isn’t in jail right now. What’s your point? What does that rebut? What does that suggest to you about the conclusions other people have drawn? What is it that you’re trying to communicate with > [@](#): > > But if she was/is truly concerned about the health and welfare of her child, she should have never stuck around since January. You want to state unequivocally that Mel knocked out her teeth. If that’s true, why was she there the next day? I don’t like the line “she had nowhere to go”. That’s a cop-out line of all time. ANYWHERE is better than being with the abuser. and > [@](#): > > I take it you have issues too. Sorry for that. But to simply lump everyone in the same box and say that abused women are all the same, that they all act the same, and follow a predictable pattern is just not true. For instance, women of means would have more options than women without means. Are you all telling us that an abused woman stays around regardless of financial circumstances because the abuser is bigger than that? I don’t think so. If Mel is smacking her around while she’s holding the child, why on earth would she have to stay for 5-6 months? Since you dismiss this question, why don’t you answer your own question for me… what exactly ARE they waiting for? and > [@](#): > > If she continued a relationship with this nutjob for months after the recorded tirade at the beginning of this thread, I think an obvious question is why she didn’t leave him then and there. We aren’t talking about some woman with no job, 4 children, and no where to go. If you are lumping her in with the average person you’ve dealt with over the last 13 years, I question your ability to understand the dynamics of an individual case. and > [@](#): > > Why? Why are they being released now? And by who? There can’t me that many people who had access to those tapes, so it’s a legitimate question. If the police released the tapes, why would they? Someone is going to lose his/her job over something like that. Mel’s certainly not going to release them (assuming he has a copy), which leaves us with Oksana and/or her attorneys. Even with that, we still don’t know who actually did release the tapes, so pointing a finger right now is futile. and on and on? Because I’ve seen this attitude before, many times, and only ever for the purpose of discounting the abuse that was taking place and suggesting that the victim shares in the blame for that abuse. If you have some other purpose in _repeatedly_ questioning the conduct of the woman here, who we know for certain was repeatedly and graphically verbally abused, and who we know for certain Mel Gibson hinted that he would have _killed_, now would be a fantastic time for you to out with it. By the way, yeah, I cursed at you. People like you make my job a lot harder and make a lot of people’s lives a lot harder. Like in the real world. Congrats. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/449 "2010-07-18T21:02:22Z")
> [@InterestedObserver](#): > > Don’t Call Me Shirley, I, for one, am honestly interested in having my “ignorance” on this particular point alleviated. > > snip > > Like a few others here, I honestly question WHY this woman STAYED, in HIS house yet, for so long. I think it’s a perfectly fair question. IF he was so horribly abusive and she was SO concerned for her safety and that of her child, did she not relocate and pursue the legal measures she is now from elsewhere? And, given the timing of the tapes and her allegations, did she stay IN the relationship so long after his abuse, according to her, became apparent? > As I posted earlier, she does NOT fit the usual pattern of the “victim.” If you want me to alleviate your ignorance on why THIS woman stayed in abusive relationship for so long, I’m afraid I can’t help you. What I can tell you is that it is not unusual. I can think of all kinds of reasons why she may have stayed. Reasons that I see all the time in situations like this one. Women who had lots of money and lots of friends that wanted to help and family they could go to and whose abuser had a probation officer that knew what was going on and would have been more than happy to intervene. And still they stayed. What if she was convinced that Mel would be able to hire the best lawyers and make sure she never saw the child again? Then it would make sense for her to stay, in her mind, because even though she was still in danger she would still be able to look after the child, rather than leaving it alone with that monster. It seems to me that Mel would have had no problem convincing her of that. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/450 "2010-07-18T21:02:39Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I’m sorry, maybe you want to stop and fish that sand out of your vagina before we continue this discussion. There, now doesn’t that feel better? I was afraid you were so wound up you were going to make a pearl up there. > > I don’t disagree that maybe your ex is a big, nasty, user cunt. Sounds like she is. But unless she got a brain tumor midway through your relationship that severely effected how she behaves, she’s always been like this. You chose to put your dick in that pile of crazy, you chose to impregnate her, you chose to make a lifelong pact with this lady. You appear to have known the kind of person she is and you chose to knock her up anyway, what did you think was going to happen? > > Despite all that, if you think your child support is unjust, you have plenty of recourse to fix the situation. The fact of the matter is though: Mel Gibson is very, very wealthy. If he has to pay $30k a month for his child to maintain the lifestyle with which it has been raised thus far, it is no different than the shitty dead beats I can encounter that bitch about paying $150 a month. Ultimately, if he didn’t want to end up paying out each month, it was very easily avoidable: don’t put tab a into slot b. Sorry, no sympathy for Gibson if he has to pay out. Listen to yoseff, ho. This is the same thread where nothing Oksana might have done meant she deserved anything that Mel later did. But now I’m to blame because my ex is just as crazy in her own way as Mel Gibson. There’s no having any kind of discussion when there is some kind of fucked up double standard in place. BTW, I’ve seen your picture, so I wouldn’t ride too hard on the “I chose not to have kids” horse. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/451 "2010-07-18T21:05:31Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > BTW, I’ve seen your picture, so I wouldn’t ride too hard on the “I chose not to have kids” horse. Wow, your kid is so lucky to have such a classy Daddy. Really ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/452 "2010-07-18T21:11:45Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Listen to yoseff, ho. This is the same thread where nothing Oksana might have done meant she deserved anything that Mel later did. Ooh, so close. You’re so close. Wouldn’t it feel good to just say it? So close. Come on, both of us together. “She d-” “She des-” I know you have it in you. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/453 "2010-07-18T21:44:09Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > BTW, I’ve seen your picture, so I wouldn’t ride too hard on the “I chose not to have kids” horse. LOL Ok. You win.Good luck with that happy life you have over there, sweet Scummy. It seems to be going swell for you thus far. Now if only I could trick some nice man into falling into my cavernous vagina. Then I can birth his child and live like a QUEEN off of child support. Hey, can I get your ex’s info? I feel like she could advise me on how to go about this in the right way. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/454 "2010-07-18T22:04:41Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Listen to yoseff, ho. > [@Scumpup](#): > > BTW, I’ve seen your picture, so I wouldn’t ride too hard on the “I chose not to have kids” horse. You never know where you’re going to find a good Username / Post combo. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/455 "2010-07-18T22:11:17Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > BTW, I’ve seen your picture, so I wouldn’t ride too hard on the “I chose not to have kids” horse. Here, have a shovel. If you dig faster maybe you can get out of that hole. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/456 "2010-07-18T22:19:20Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Wow, your kid is so lucky to have such a classy Daddy. Really Yeah? Guess what, menstrual clot, your history here does not incline me to solicit your good opinion. My daughter loves me very much and has already learned to dislike dross like you. Basically, all is right with the world in that respect. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/457 "2010-07-18T22:36:11Z")
You sure like to use a lot of feminine-based insults (“ho” “menstrual clot” etc.-- not to mention attacking a chick’s looks) Scummy. I’m shocked- SHOCKED! that such a man would also defend a guy who beats the shit out of women holding babies. With that high opinion you seem to have of women over there, I can’t imagine why you’re playing the role of jilted ex husband. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/458 "2010-07-18T22:52:42Z")
I’m not trying to be presumptuous about either of them, or their intention, outside of what I already know. I do agree that an adult women or man should be responsible on some level for staying in an abusive relationship. Especially those with kids, depending on the occasions. I don’t rule out sinister intentions on her part with this whole thing… This doesn’t change how I feel about Mel Gibson, I have, (…if had ever cared about seeing any movie he ever really been in), boycotted all the movies he’s been a part of since he got arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/459 "2010-07-18T23:21:21Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Yeah? Guess what, menstrual clot, your history here does not incline me to solicit your good opinion. My daughter loves me very much and has already learned to dislike dross like you. Basically, all is right with the world in that respect. It’s alllll becoming clearer. About your daughter: By your own words her mother is crazy. By your words here we can clearly see you’re ignorant fucktard. I guess your handle here is your daughter’s nickname then? With parents like you she’ll be LUCKY to rise up above her genetics enough to be a gold-digger. Forget saving for college, start saving for implants. Still, from now on when you post at least I can know where your nickname comes from ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/460 "2010-07-18T23:23:42Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > You sure like to use a lot of feminine-based insults (“ho” “menstrual clot” etc.-- not to mention attacking a chick’s looks) Scummy. I’m shocked- SHOCKED! that such a man would also defend a guy who beats the shit out of women holding babies. > > With that high opinion you seem to have of women over there, I can’t imagine why you’re playing the role of jilted ex husband. OK, chunk-style, you’re the one who decided to grab all kinds of moral high ground by playing this card. Please link to previous threads where you called dopers to task for calling somebody a “dick” or similar penis-themed insults. I’ll wait while you do that, though I’m sure your links will be many and copious. I’m also waiting for you to explain why Oksana hooking up with Mel and it turning out badly leaves her blameless, but my failed marriage is all my fault. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490.md?page=24)