# Mel Gibson dials it up to 11 with new telephone recording. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490 "2010-07-13T03:07:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/541 "2010-07-20T00:36:19Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > You do realize the Mel has supported far more kids than you have, And even more than that indirectly through his philanthropy. Yeah, really. I mean, the man is a saint. Then that nasty younger woman made him leave his wife and kids and have a baby with her. Then she won’t blow him. I mean she totally deserved to have her teeth knocked out. Poor, poor Mel. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/542 "2010-07-20T00:42:08Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I think we’ve all been there, **Dutchman**. You love her with all your heart, you punch the shit out of her and bellow and hoot and demean her to show you how _crrrraaazzzy_ she makes you, and is it enough? Is that enough? Fuck and no, it isn’t. She goes and consorts with the type of bitch who… I’m not sure. Makes eyes at you and would blow you in a second. What the fuck is that about? And then when you tell her you’ll put her in the rose garden because of something about a jacuzzi or something, and remind her that she knows you’re capable of it, what does that fucking tramp do? _What does she do?_ The scenario you draw could only make sense if you can apply it to his relationship with his first wife. > [@](#): > > Eh. You’re thinking of it backward. Until the breadwinner runs out on the family, or terrorizes the mother of his children, or whatever, the state doesn’t get involved in his family’s lives… Or until the mother has secured her monthly income. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/543 "2010-07-20T00:46:08Z")
I put it to you that that doesn’t make any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/544 "2010-07-20T00:46:49Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > The scenario you draw could only make sense if you can apply it to his relationship with his first wife. Wait, what? No snark intended, I’m honestly confused (blonde) here. Are you saying that unless he treated his first (and only!) wife this way, you don’t believe he could treat his mistress this way? ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/545 "2010-07-20T00:47:49Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > (Damn editing time limit!) > > I think one of the major problems in our society is that any time a woman is abused, if she’s not a “pure-as-the-driven-snow” saint, then she completely deserved what she got. It’s absolutely disgusting. Nah, this is more of a species level thing. If it was societal there could be hope for a change. It’s not even a man thing either. Women love to do this to each other too. > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > She could have literally cracked his giant Armageddon safe and squandered millions on Fabergé eggs she used as targets at the shooting range. It doesn’t matter. She could have blown all of his friends, but not him, before the hot tub. It doesn’t matter. Get it? Nothing a human being can do to another justifies what Gibson admits on tape to doing. There is never a time it is ok to knock someone’s teeth out, particularly when they are clearly defenseless and holding your child. Er, what? Just focusing on your hypotheticals as a general case, the best way to make an otherwise sane and well adjusted man want to kill you is to either ruin him financially or cheat on him. Let alone knocking a couple of teeth out. Not a smart idea, but very understandable. Which is the opposite of what I’m getting from Mel. This guy’s butter slid off his toast. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/546 "2010-07-20T00:48:39Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > You do realize the Mel has supported far more kids than you have Supporting MOST of your kids is not the metric. I support ALL my kids, and Ive never punched their mother in the face. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/547 "2010-07-20T00:49:22Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Er, what? Just focusing on your hypotheticals as a general case, the best way to make an otherwise sane and well adjusted man want to kill you is to either ruin him financially or cheat on him. Let alone knocking a couple of teeth out. Not a smart idea, but very understandable, which is the opposite of what I’m getting from Mel. This guy’s butter slid off his toast. Sooo, you’re saying if I cheat on my husband, he’s within his rights to punch me in the face while I’m holding our baby and knock my teeth out? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/548 "2010-07-20T00:50:19Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Or until the mother has secured her monthly income. Not the mother, the child. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/549 "2010-07-20T01:08:39Z")
> [@FloatyGimpy](#): > > Yeah, really. I mean, the man is a saint. Then that nasty younger woman made him leave his wife and kids and have a baby with her. Then she won’t blow him. I mean she totally deserved to have her teeth knocked out. > > Poor, poor Mel. 1. He did not leave his wife for Oksana 2. He did not knock out any teeth. Did you see the picture alleging the incident ? She was smiling and no hint at all of soft tissue bruising adjacent to her mouth or on her face, and merely a chipped tooth that had to be there before because a veneer was dislodged. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/550 "2010-07-20T01:14:52Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Supporting MOST of your kids is not the metric. I support ALL my kids, and Ive never punched their mother in the face. Yeah, but you are real stingy compared to Mel. Gee **Dio** do you even have a real job ? Suppose Mel gets away with it by moving to Australia and sends Oksana a check for $1000.00 every month, would you agree that it would constitute support ? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/551 "2010-07-20T01:16:05Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Not the mother, the child. Cheques are written to the mother. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/552 "2010-07-20T01:18:14Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > 1. He did not leave his wife for Oksana > > 2. He did not knock out any teeth. > > Did you see the picture alleging the incident ? She was smiling and no hint at all of soft tissue bruising adjacent to her mouth or on her face, and merely a chipped tooth that had to be there before because a veneer was dislodged. Oh, well that makes all the difference in the world. he didn’t knock her teeth out, he only broke one. :rolleyes: HE PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/553 "2010-07-20T01:19:53Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Cheques are written to the mother. Irrelevant. It’s still the child’s money, not the mother’s. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/554 "2010-07-20T01:22:54Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Yeah, but you are real stingy compared to Mel. How so? Stingy means holding back. I’m not holding back. Mel seems to want to, though. I also give my kids love and attention and sobriety and respect for their mother. > [@](#): > > Gee **Dio** do you even have a real job ? Of course. > [@](#): > > Suppose Mel gets away with it by moving to Australia and sends Oksana a check for $1000.00 every month, would you agree that it would constitute support ? Not even close. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/555 "2010-07-20T01:23:57Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Did you see the picture alleging the incident ? She was smiling and no hint at all of soft tissue bruising adjacent to her mouth or on her face, and merely a chipped tooth that had to be there before because a veneer was dislodged. Did you see that bitch? She didn’t wear black for the socially accepted period of time! She may have even gone _dancing_ like the floozy she is during this period of grief! Let’s see. Someone needs to take a picture of your teeth. How does one show their teeth. . .if only there was a normal muscle reflex that took care of this. .. hmmmm Does it matter at all that [her dentist has confirmed that the injuries he saw and treated were consistent with someone being struck in the head?](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/oksanas-dentist-says-she-was-struck-twice-in-mouth-head-2010197) Na. That bitch probably blew him before the jacuzzi so he’d lie for her. Gold digging cunt. > [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Suppose Mel gets away with it by moving to Australia and sends Oksana a check for $1000.00 every month, would you agree that it would constitute support ? Not sufficient support. Again: celebrity children require a slightly hire level of care than non celebrity children. This includes security, private schools, etc. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/556 "2010-07-20T01:26:31Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Oh, well that makes all the difference in the world. he didn’t knock her teeth out, he only broke one. :rolleyes: > > HE PUNCHED HER IN THE FACE. How do you know. Why was she wearing a veneer? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/557 "2010-07-20T01:27:06Z")
He admitted to punching her on tape. That he hit her is not in question. Trying to minimize or handwave the injuries is a classic abuser tactic, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/558 "2010-07-20T01:28:17Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > How do you know. Because he admitted it. > [@](#): > > Why was she wearing a veneer? Who gives a fuck? How is it relevant? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/559 "2010-07-20T01:29:31Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > How do you know. Why was she wearing a veneer? Who knows. Well, her dentist does and as I previously linked, he says she got hit in the head twice and got her teeth fucked up. I’m going to trust him on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490/560 "2010-07-20T01:33:12Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Not sufficient support. Again: celebrity children require a slightly hire level of care than non celebrity children. This includes security, private schools, etc. I will admit that when I was a lot younger I thought the mothers of celebrity children made out like bandits for no reason. I forget what Will Smith ended up paying in child support for his oldest child, but I remember telling my father how wrong I thought it was because it wasn’t _her_ out there working for the money he made. He said something like “Yeah, that’s true. Still, if the boy goes to Dad’s house and he’s got a mansion and a pool and all the toys he wants and then he has to go home to Mom’s little condo where he just has to live like a “normal” boy, who do you think will have the advantage over him?” I had to admit that he was right and I’d never thought of it that way before. Hey, when I was a kid I liked having stuff. What kid wouldn’t? Why should the child live like a prince at one house and then go home to much, much less. Of course when parents divorce (or are never married) you can’t make everything _just like_ how it would be if the parents lived together happily. To me, child support is established to let the child live at least FINANCIALLY how he or she would if the parents were still pooling their money together as a family. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mel-gibson-dials-it-up-to-11-with-new-telephone-recording/546490.md?page=29)