# Melania is not in Superdude's top 50

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [October 4, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483 "2024-10-04T19:52:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/1 "2024-10-04T19:52:01Z")

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Oh, check out conservative/MAGA Xitter. Every third or fourth post is “do you agree that Melania is the most beautiful and classy First Lady we’ve ever had?”

To which I invariably reply, “she’s not even in the top 50.”

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/2 "2024-10-04T19:57:05Z")

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No calls to deport her then, eh?

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/3 "2024-10-04T20:03:55Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> No calls to deport her then

Nah, she’s got an anchor baby.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/4 "2024-10-04T20:04:11Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Oh, check out conservative/MAGA Xitter. Every third or fourth post is “do you agree that Melania is the most beautiful and classy First Lady we’ve ever had?”

Gotta be from Slovenians.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/5 "2024-10-05T04:36:47Z")

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Melania does not strike me as excessively classy and is not my type. But it is simply wrong to imply she is not a strikingly beautiful woman, although there are First Ladies I find more attractive. And probably other qualities more important in a First Lady. But if you feel that way, I don’t care. Do U?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/6 "2024-10-05T04:55:49Z")

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If you’re going strictly by physical appearance, yes, she’s attractive. But when you factor in all the aspects of her personality that she’s shown in public, she plummets down through the earth’s crust, and it just detracts from any appeal that she would have had. For me, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/7 "2024-10-05T05:24:31Z")

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She looks like a past her prime model.  
I don’t make the rules what qualifies as a fashion model, but they have a distinct look.

A few break out and are truly beautiful and age well. Melania is not one of these.  
Her face does not play in Poughkeepsie.  
She looks like an alien(not immigration like but outer space like).

She of course is perfectly groomed and made up and well dressed, I guess. What do I know about fashion?  
Possibly spends way too much money on clothing and beauty consults.

I’d be perfectly happy never seeing her face again.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/8 "2024-10-05T06:16:04Z")

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Beauty being in the eye of the beholder and all, I don’t see her as attractive at all. Every time I’m with my daughter and we see her on a magazine cover, I say ‘she’s a man baby’ and my daughter shakes her head at me.

I think the trump fans don’t believe she is telling the truth and they’re fine with not telling the truth. Plus no real man listens to the opinion of any woman, including their spouse.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/9 "2024-10-05T10:59:30Z")

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“Oh! Check out what the arm Candy said about abortion! Whoooo! She’ll have to apologize to our favorite Orange Man!”

That’s pretty much what I think about what most men will say who already support the dummy.

Anyone who already doesn’t like him, but may be pro-life, will not be swayed on either their vote or opinion on abortion from the over-botoxed tagalong.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/10 "2024-10-05T15:34:50Z")

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Just makes me wonder how many abortions she’s had.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/11 "2024-10-05T20:04:35Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> A few break out and are truly beautiful and age well. Melania is not one of these.  
> Her face does not play in Poughkeepsie.  
> She looks like an alien(not immigration like but outer space like).

She was very pretty when she was young, not beautiful, but pretty. But a lot of women are pretty when they’re young. What she is now has been created by bad procedures (whatever she’s done to her eyes is what gives her that alien look) and her venal personality. She always has a sourpuss expression (she probably thinks it makes her look sophisticated and glamorous) and looks like the ultimate mean girl.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/12 "2024-10-05T20:59:15Z")

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I split this mess of a hijack off. As I wrote in the original thread:

> [@Will Melania Trump's pro-choice stance be a factor in the election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-melania-trumps-pro-choice-stance-be-a-factor-in-the-election/1008425/80):
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> This is really off-topic and hard to consider it misogynistic being brought up in this thread. I’m going to spin this crap off to a new thread with its replies. Try to not hijack threads with appearance shaming.

**Moderating:**

Now you’re in the pit, have fun. She was a model and so I believe this is fair game but not it a P&E thread about her book and its effect on the election.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/13 "2024-10-05T21:13:42Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Beauty being in the eye of the beholder and all, I don’t see her as attractive at all.

Me neither. The whole supermodel, I eat one grape a day and never smile because I am always filled with ennui, look doesn’t do it for me. I much prefer a healthy fresh the girl next door type look. Maryanne over Ginger without a second thought.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/14 "2024-10-05T21:39:04Z")

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To me, she is one of those people whose looks can go either way, depending on their character. I think objectively (or as objective as one can be about beauty) she’s pretty but everything else about her is so unpleasant that it tips her back to the ugly category. Ditto JD Vance. He’s not unattractive until he opens his pie hole, which cancels everything out.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/15 "2024-10-05T21:42:59Z")

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She’s a rich guy’s third wife - of course she’s pretty. That’s what got her the gig. What, you think Trump married her for her personality?

Whether or not someone is attractive is not a moral judgement, just an aesthetic one. You can be beautiful and still be a horrible person, and you can be a saint and be ugly as sin. One has nothing to do with the other.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/16 "2024-10-05T21:45:37Z")

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You’ve summed up my position perfectly well.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/17 "2024-10-05T23:43:34Z")

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Betty Ford’s ass wasn’t too bad, gotta say.

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/18 "2024-10-05T23:52:15Z")

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I just think the MAGA crowd got all triggered by Michelle Obama (in a variety of ways) and are still trying to take her down, by pushing some sort of narrative that the woman in _their_ camp is the most beautifulest and classy of _all_. They’d probably be pushing the idea no matter who was the latest Republican First Lady.

I think this idea is also an underhanded attack on Kamala Harris, especially if it is recently emerging (“hey, let’s rate these women”). They’re getting worried. The misogyny is strong with this crowd.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/19 "2024-10-05T23:52:59Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> She’s a rich guy’s third wife - of course she’s pretty. That’s what got her the gig. What, you think Trump married her for her personality?

There’s nothing ambiguous or nuanced about either of them. Each got exactly what they expected and deserved in each other. Melania’s looks are interchangeable with any other celebrity arm candy. She is somewhat distinguishable by her unfocused soulless stare, but only somewhat.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-is-not-in-superdudes-top-50/1008483/20 "2024-10-06T00:30:10Z")

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They also try to bring Michelle Obama down by repeating the urban legend that she’s [transgender](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/feb/28/facebook-posts/michelle-obama-was-never-man/).

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