# Melania Trump and Son Barron Won't Move Immediately into White House

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 22, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703 "2016-11-22T00:41:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/21 "2016-11-22T03:17:47Z")

</div>

> [@Aspidistra](#):
>
> Didn’t a previous wife-less president some time back in the last century (or two) have his daughter/niece/something being first lady for him? So that’s not unprecedented.

I think “slippery slope” is the operative phrase for Donald and Ivanka.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/22 "2016-11-22T03:18:24Z")

</div>

> [@ThelmaLou](#):
>
> What would have been the reaction if Hillary Clinton did not want to move into the White House but decided to run the country from the Clinton Foundation offices? Tar & feathers, that’s what.

The reaction from the people who object to what Trump wants to do would be fine with it. The GOP would make an issue out of it if it was Hillary. It’s not just that this is partisan political stupidity, it’s that it’s traditional GOP stupidity that the Democrats have adopted.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![OriginalGangster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea5d25/32.png) [@OriginalGangster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OriginalGangster)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/23 "2016-11-22T03:21:23Z")

</div>

Drumpfft is buying time to avoid the white house & having to live in DC.

He may step down anyways.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/24 "2016-11-22T03:23:52Z")

</div>

Much ado about nothing. That is a private decision and none of the general public’s business.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/25 "2016-11-22T03:26:18Z")

</div>

Jesus Christ, I can’t imagine how this will affect the country – let the poor kid finish out the school year. Don’t start acting like the Freepers and go after a ten year old, fuck’s sake.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/26 "2016-11-22T03:45:57Z")

</div>

> [@Clothahump](#):
>
> Much ado about nothing. That is a private decision and none of the general public’s business.

Thank you for giving us your public opinion on a totally private decision.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/27 "2016-11-22T03:49:49Z")

</div>

Poor Melania. Moving into the White House, for her, must be like moving into a slum dwelling.

Bob

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/28 "2016-11-22T03:56:23Z")

</div>

> [@urban1a](#):
>
> Poor Melania. Moving into the White House, for her, must be like moving into a slum dwelling.
> 
> Bob

It _is_ public housing.  
It’s fenced off from the rest of the community.  
There are law enforcement officers patrolling constantly.

😃

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/29 "2016-11-22T04:19:54Z")

</div>

> [@Aspidistra](#):
>
> Didn’t a previous wife-less president some time back in the last century (or two) have his daughter/niece/something being first lady for him? So that’s not unprecedented.

James Buchanan moved into the White House with his “valet” (i.e. partner) and had a lady friend named Harriet Lane, after which a large pediatric clinic in Baltimore was later named, accompany him to official functions.

IIRC, there was another unmarried president who had a female relative as an escort, and then he married so he didn’t need her for that purpose any more. Taft, maybe?

That Melania and Barron aren’t planning to move into the White House doesn’t bother me in itself. What does bother me are the security measures that will be needed, although I don’t think any of them really care about how much they’re inconveniencing the neighbors.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/30 "2016-11-22T04:41:09Z")

</div>

> [@alphaboi867](#):
>
> I’m sure Ivanka will still find time to serve as hostess at the White House in-between running Trumps hotels and sitting in on meetings with foreign leaders.

Plus, she’s hot enough that Trump might date her if she wasn’t his daughter.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/31 "2016-11-22T05:38:11Z")

</div>

Am I the only one who sees a Green Aches sketch in this?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/32 "2016-11-22T06:42:37Z")

</div>

This could be the big break that Monica Lewinsky’s been looking for. Is she still job hunting?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/33 "2016-11-22T07:04:25Z")

</div>

> [@Nema98](#):
>
> So what are your views??

Mine are that your first-glance impression was right - why should we care.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/34 "2016-11-22T07:13:26Z")

</div>

Slightly off topic (and I’m sure it’s been raised in other threads/venues) but does that poor kid look like the most miserable 10 yr old in the world? (Can’t be fucked searching yada yada)

If getting away from this whole debacle (by staying in NY and not living with Daddy) will cheer him up a bit then I’m all for it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/35 "2016-11-22T07:48:05Z")

</div>

Well, Trump is [really punishing the city\* that didn’t vote for him.](http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/21/news/protecting-donald-trump/) (Warning: Audio included.)

> [@](#):
>
> Protecting President-elect Donald Trump and his family is costing New York City more than $1 million a day, according to three city officials.
> 
> And those costs won’t necessarily drop significantly once he moves to the White House.  
> That’s because Melania Trump and their 10-year old son Barron expect to stay at their home at Trump Tower in midtown Manhattan, at least until the end of the school year. And Donald Trump has indicated he plans to return home regularly, especially while they’re still here.
> 
> Adding to the expense is the cost of police assigned to Trump’s adult children and his grandchildren, who are also receiving Secret Service protection, John Miller, NYPD’s deputy commissioner of intelligence & counterterrorism, told WCBS Monday. All of them live in the city, and all are entitled to receive Secret Service protection.

Trump apparently plans to spend lots of time in NYC. Which will continue to disrupt traffic, as well as cost money. Trump Tower will need alteration for security & to support the Presidential staff. (Most presidential getaways have been rural–which simplified security. But those presidents couldn’t get away from work, even if they spent time cutting mesquite.) Hey, more money for Trump!

The decision to leave the family in place just means that Trump’s victory surprised him as much as it surprised all of us. They would have already found a school for the kid & Melania would have begun hiring the staff a First Lady needs–if they’d suspected. Just another aspect of the shambolic Trump regime. The White House has a nice apartment for the First Family–but it’s hardly as large & ornate as the Trump homestead.

- Well, _my_ city didn’t vote for him either. Most cities didn’t.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/36 "2016-11-22T09:21:56Z")

</div>

> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
>
> The decision to leave the family in place just means that Trump’s victory surprised him as much as it surprised all of us. They would have already found a school for the kid & Melania would have begun hiring the staff a First Lady needs–if they’d suspected. Just another aspect of the shambolic Trump regime.

Or maybe it went down like this:

> [@](#):
>
> August (or anytime since Trump made the decision to run):
> 
> Melania: You know, Donald, I really don’t think it would be good to take Barron out of school in the middle of the school year and move him to another school in Washington, and if you win the election we’ll have to do that.
> 
> Trump: I don’t see the need for that. You and Barron can stay here in New York till the end of the school year and then move to DC once the school year is over. In fact as far as I’m concerned you can stay here permanently. Hell, it’s just the presidency, I can still do I can still do what I want.
> 
> Melania: Oh, Donald, you crazy Alpha Male, you! It’s no wonder I love you so much!

Any reason this scenario wouldn’t be more plausible?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/37 "2016-11-22T09:30:40Z")

</div>

> [@running\_coach](#):
>
> It _is_ public housing.  
> It’s fenced off from the rest of the community.  
> There are law enforcement officers patrolling constantly.
> 
> 😃

The second item might not be a negative as far as the Trumps are concerned.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/38 "2016-11-22T09:42:22Z")

</div>

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
>
> IIRC, there was another unmarried president who had a female relative as an escort, and then he married so he didn’t need her for that purpose any more. Taft, maybe?

Grover Cleveland. He moved into the White House as a bachelor in his first term and his sister Rose served as hostess. He married 21 year old Frances Folsom in 1886.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/39 "2016-11-22T10:29:08Z")

</div>

Doesn’t the White House require considerable renovation?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703/40 "2016-11-22T11:09:34Z")

</div>

> [@Quartz](#):
>
> Doesn’t the White House require considerable renovation?

Each incoming First Family puts its own touch on the White House, but it’s in sound structural shape. It was completely gutted and reconstructed in 1948 during the Truman administration.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703.md?page=1)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-and-son-barron-wont-move-immediately-into-white-house/772703.md?page=3)
