# Melania Trump is a piece of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555 "2018-06-22T03:24:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/221 "2018-06-23T11:09:02Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > No. I didn’t notice your efforts. I thank you for them. …you’ve already thanked him! Him and his daughter! It was barely a page ago! Hello! Is anybody home? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/222 "2018-06-23T11:09:15Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Are you an idiot? I mean this as a serious question. Did you not recognize me as the poster who talked about organizing a phone campaign to Ted Cruz and John Cornyn? > > Seriously, with this last question you’re just rolling with a “t”. I forsee a new SNL bit, next season: [Poster you wish you hadn’t started a conversation with at the SDMB](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/girl-you-wish-you-hadnt-started-a-conversation-with-at-a-party/n28602). ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/223 "2018-06-23T12:00:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Now go out with your bull horn and chain yourself to a fence or something. No More NUKES!!! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/224 "2018-06-23T12:31:10Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > You should behave better than a Nazi. Weird–that’s kind of my response to your calling Melania a whore. Be better than Trump. When called on your shit-tastic behavior, you’ve just deflected. All it takes is your saying, “Y’know, you’re right, I shouldn’t do that. I won’t call women ‘whore’ as an insult going forward.” Everyone here agrees with you about the camps. The disagreement is over whether you should use misogynistic epithets for women you disagree with. Focus. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/225 "2018-06-23T12:48:13Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > I don’t think you can understand.[Tom Petty does](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBi8XfKzk0). I hope you have good speakers He ded. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/226 "2018-06-23T12:51:05Z")
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/227 "2018-06-23T13:15:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Are you an idiot? I mean this as a serious question. Did you not recognize me as the poster who talked about organizing a phone campaign to Ted Cruz and John Cornyn? > > Seriously, with this last question you’re just rolling with a “t”. No. He is angry. In fact, he is furious. You know, to the point where his thinking is affected. He is unlikely to be paying close attention to who has said what. He admits to being so angry that he can’t sleep, so that’s going to affect his thinking, too. Sorry, but I have sympathy for him over that. Yes, he shouldn’t have called her a whore. But I know this place of deep, deep anger. And I know that calling someone an idiot isn’t going to get them to realize what’s wrong. * * * Rather than disingenuously telling **fervour** to calm down while also insulting him, I’m just going to recommend that he take some time away to feel his emotions. One rule I follow here is that, if I’m getting really angry, I get off one angry post, then I leave for a while. Even if you have a point, being that level of angry doesn’t help. Sticking around just makes things worse. Take a break. Do something that helps you feel good or better about the world. Or even just let yourself be angry for a while. And I don’t mean some big break. I mean just get out of the situation. Yes, I get it. The way you are being attacked makes you angrier. That isn’t helpful, though. I have the utmost sympathy for people who get really, really angry about the injustices of the world. But I also know that staying in this thread isn’t going to help anything. This level of anger means you can’t actually “do something” either. This isn’t me saying “calm down.” I know how that seems dismissive, and that no one can do it on command… I do 100% feel you on the children and Melania and probably other aspects of the world tearing you down. I’m actually suggesting something that can help. You have been understood. Even the people who are attacking agree with you. So take some time for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/228 "2018-06-23T13:30:02Z")
Here endeth the lesson, we all pray. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/229 "2018-06-23T14:34:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > No. He is angry. In fact, he is furious. You know, to the point where his thinking is affected. He is unlikely to be paying close attention to who has said what. He admits to being so angry that he can’t sleep, so that’s going to affect his thinking, too. > > Sorry, but I have sympathy for him over that. Yes, he shouldn’t have called her a whore. But I know this place of deep, deep anger. And I know that calling someone an idiot isn’t going to get them to realize what’s wrong. > > * * * > > Rather than disingenuously telling **fervour** to calm down while also insulting him, I’m just going to recommend that he take some time away to feel his emotions. One rule I follow here is that, if I’m getting really angry, I get off one angry post, then I leave for a while. Even if you have a point, being that level of angry doesn’t help. > > Sticking around just makes things worse. Take a break. Do something that helps you feel good or better about the world. Or even just let yourself be angry for a while. > > And I don’t mean some big break. I mean just get out of the situation. Yes, I get it. The way you are being attacked makes you angrier. That isn’t helpful, though. > > I have the utmost sympathy for people who get really, really angry about the injustices of the world. But I also know that staying in this thread isn’t going to help anything. This level of anger means you can’t actually “do something” either. > > This isn’t me saying “calm down.” I know how that seems dismissive, and that no one can do it on command… I do 100% feel you on the children and Melania and probably other aspects of the world tearing you down. I’m actually suggesting something that can help. > > You have been understood. Even the people who are attacking agree with you. So take some time for yourself. I can’t. This is the least I can do. I appreciate it. Did you notice how pathetically few had admitted to contacting their reps? But they can post on a message board. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/230 "2018-06-23T14:36:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Here endeth the lesson, we all pray. So say we all. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/231 "2018-06-23T14:45:50Z")
> [@simster](#): > > So say we all. You don’t have to read. Do I have to remind you of the 2000 kids incarcerated? If you contacted your reps, I would like to here it. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/232 "2018-06-23T14:59:18Z")
The least you can do is attack people who have contacted their reps, organized campaigns to do same, or aren’t even American? Oh, and call a woman (that I really have no sympathy for, personally) a whore. And tell us what music you’re listening to, of course. And yes I have. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/233 "2018-06-23T15:22:19Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > I can’t. This is the least I can do. I appreciate it. Did you notice how pathetically few had admitted to contacting their reps? But they can post on a message board. I’ve “admitted” (what a weird fuckin word to use, by the way) to contacting my reps. So will you listen to me when I tell you to stop using misogynistic language? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/234 "2018-06-23T15:24:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > …I know that calling someone an idiot isn’t going to get them to realize what’s wrong. Neither, apparently, is a dozen assorted posts calmly explaining the problem. This poster is either deliberately trolling us or is beyond the reach of persuasion. Sort of like Melania Trump. By all means, keep showing empathy; that’s admirable. But while it may be ineffective to call someone an idiot who chooses to interact with others in a calculatedly confrontational manner while showing disregard (ostentatiously so) for information in the posts directed back at them, it’s also counterproductive to lecture the people who’ve been trying to correct said idiot and are now frustrated and angry. You are not doing yourself any favors going full scold. Stick to empathy. Here endeth the counterpoint. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/235 "2018-06-23T15:29:44Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > The least you can do is attack people who have contacted their reps, organized campaigns to do same, or aren’t even American? Oh, and call a woman (that I really have no sympathy for, personally) a whore. > > And tell us what music you’re listening to, of course. > > And yes I have. Thanks. I appreciate your efforts. Good speakers are underrated. Most people are listening on crap. They don’t cost much. Forgive me if I have refound good sound. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/236 "2018-06-23T16:43:34Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > If you wondered if she was for real. Here it is. She wore an[I-really-don’t-care](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-wears-jacket-with-i-really-dont-care-on-it-to-visit-immigrant-children_us_5b2bebe7e4b0321a01cf2d38) jacket to visit imprisoned children. So where are HER fucking papers??? Oh, and no “chaining” or anchor babies… Barron can go back to Pottsylvania, with her. Just like they want to do with all the other so-called 'anchors". ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/237 "2018-06-23T16:46:05Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > She must have liked him at one time. She married and had a kid with him. Money. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/238 "2018-06-23T16:47:48Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > Beck, she never liked him. She wanted to be married to a rich man and having a baby helped secure her alimony/child support for the inevitable divorce. The jacket was also not a mistake. She has stylists, publicists, all that. It was a carefully calculated decision to troll the left. Anchor baby Barron. “Chaining” as Drumpf says. Toss them both out and send them back to Pottsylvania. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/239 "2018-06-23T16:55:35Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > If the most powerful man on earth, who also happened to have a vast personal fortune, threatened to destroy you–to kill you, your kid, your family–would you be confident that he was bluffing or incapable? Confident enough to risk the lives of the ones you love? Now that is one hell of a fucking thing to ponder, from the sumbitch “you guys” (not YOU necessarily) voted for, isn’t it??? Trump has always made threats or more often always had some goon make his threats for him. Doesn’t she and Baroon have their own Secret Service detail anyway? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/240 "2018-06-23T16:57:14Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > So where are HER fucking papers??? Oh, and no “chaining” or anchor babies… Barron can go back to Pottsylvania, with her. > > Just like they want to do with all the other so-called 'anchors". > [@SteveG1](#): > > Anchor baby Barron. “Chaining” as Drumpf says. Toss them both out and send them back to Pottsylvania. Melanie became a US citizen the same year Barron was born, but she had Permanent Residence status before he was born. I would assume her papers can be found at the courthouse where she was sworn in as a citizen. I believe there was some controversy about whether she had a work visa when she first started modeling in the US, but the idea that Barron is a so-called anchor baby is nonsense. I have no sympathy for Melania, as I’ve said several times on this MB. She knew what she was getting into when she married Trump. There are enough facts to damn her with, so no need to make up stuff for that purpose. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=13)