# Melania Trump is a piece of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555 "2018-06-22T03:24:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/281 "2018-06-24T04:15:11Z")
I don’t understand how anyone here thinks their Congress rep is going to answer its own phone. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/282 "2018-06-24T04:18:16Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > I don’t understand how anyone here thinks their Congress rep is going to answer its own phone. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/283 "2018-06-24T04:30:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Cite? Really? You think your elected representative is going to pick up the phone in his/her office and say Hi to you? Are you a millionaire or something, because then that might work. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/284 "2018-06-24T04:42:29Z")
No, I’d like a cite that any of us claimed that we expect to talk to our representative/senator directly when we call. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/285 "2018-06-24T05:17:33Z")
Whose day do you think you’re interrupting again? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/286 "2018-06-24T05:39:33Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > What is the politically correct term for a person who married for money? > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Here’s the politically correct term for that: > > Stay out of other people’s fuckin business, it’s none of your goddamn beeswax who other folks fuck or why, that’s the politically correct term for that. > [@fervour](#): > > Haha! Lots of words when one should do. Here it is in ONE word, then. Spouse. The keen-eyed observer will note that it’s the same word that we use for someone who marries for true love, or for lust, or for dynastic consolidation, or for convenience. The small-minded dogmatic scold, however, will probably have to have it pointed out. Hence, this helpful aside. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/287 "2018-06-24T05:49:38Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Whose day do you think you’re interrupting again? The staff’s. Did I say otherwise? Or did you read something into what I said? I literally posted a script which assumes one is talking to a staff member and not the Rep/Senator themselves. Did you not read it? Let me quote the first two sentences: “Hello! I would like to leave a message to the Senator/Congressman…” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/288 "2018-06-24T07:39:34Z")
> [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](#): > > I don’t understand how anyone can think that Melania is trapped in her marriage. If anything, she has the power. > > With what she knows about Trump, this media circus would only get more insane. I’m sure she could access a lot of incriminating proof to back up her stories. You obviously know shit about what it’s like to be in an abusive relationship. Not saying that Melania is in one, but that is complete and utter bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/289 "2018-06-24T18:41:28Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > George Will, now a former Republican, wants you to, although [you may not agree with his reasons](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/vote-against-the-gop-this-november/2018/06/22/a6378306-7575-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html). The man is always good for a fine bout of harrumphing. Blazing Saddles - Harumph! Harumph! Harumph! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/290 "2018-06-24T18:45:13Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > My congressman is on it. Just a note, you probably don’t have to pick up the phone. Most of them have websites and you can post your opinions there as easily as you can post them here. > > Also, I think it’s okay to use whore as a derogatory word. This is a word that has many uses, and insults are one of them. If you start by calling someone a piece of shit, I don’t see that whore is any worse. It is a word that can mean in a general sense that you sell yourself for money. It’s not sexist, there are male whores too. So let’s drop this “distractionary” semantics crap and get back to bizniz. Besides, why should anyone care about a bunch that fling slurs and false accusations and lies anyway? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/291 "2018-06-24T19:00:04Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It is a word that can mean in a general sense that you sell yourself for money. It’s not sexist, there are male whores too. So let’s drop this “distractionary” semantics crap and get back to bizniz. > > Besides, why should anyone care about a bunch that fling slurs and false accusations and lies anyway? We should stop sniping at each other. There is a serious problem in the White House. Trump is a criminal. He could not care less about the problems his supporters have as long as they continue to cheer him. He certainly doesn’t give one dam about the USA. Provided he can continue to make money from his position. Full Stop. That’s all he is. He’s as shallow and transparent as a puddle in Arizona. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/292 "2018-06-24T19:12:11Z")
Can anyone link to modelling/advertising work that Melania did? Because discussions of this on Twitter has a few industry insiders say it was “open knowledge” that both Paoli Zampoli and the Trump Model agency were little more than escort services. One challenged me to “…look for any high-profile work she did in the 1990s besides those experimental lesbian nudes and besides her own test shots”. So, I ask the sleuths of the SDMB to help me because I can’t find any. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/293 "2018-06-24T19:37:58Z")
Melania appears in a Neiman Marcus ad here. [Melania Trump poses naked for Max magazine | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3717333/Melania-Trump-poses-naked-Max-magazine.html) Melania sued the Daily Mail for printing allegations that she worked as an escort. They settled in 2017 with an apology from the Daily Mail, as well as damages and legal costs paid: [Melania Trump accepts Daily Mail damages and apology in libel case | Melania Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/12/melania-trump-accepts-damages-and-apology-from-daily-mail) From the claim: [INDENT]“The economic damage to the plaintiff’s brand, and licensing, marketing and endorsement opportunities caused by the publication of Mail Online’s defamatory article, is multiple millions of dollars. “[The] plaintiff had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multimillion-dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.” [/INDENT] ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/294 "2018-06-24T19:39:26Z")
I looked for Melania Knauss, and [this](http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/models/melania_knauss/) came up (the name on the side is her current one but the entry itself uses her Germanized maiden name). ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/295 "2018-06-24T20:00:14Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Can anyone link to modelling/advertising work that Melania did? Because discussions of this on Twitter has a few industry insiders say it was “open knowledge” that both Paoli Zampoli and the Trump Model agency were little more than escort services. > > One challenged me to “…look for any high-profile work she did in the 1990s besides those experimental lesbian nudes and besides her own test shots”. > > So, I ask the sleuths of the SDMB to help me because I can’t find any. Thanks! > [@Wiki](#): > > Her modeling career was associated with [Irene Marie Models](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irene_Marie_Models) and [Trump Model Management.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Model_Management) The Trump Model link is… interesting. I will let others draw their own conclusions. That doesn’t include her soft core porn stuff, which I won’t subject myself to. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/296 "2018-06-24T20:17:31Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > It is a word that can mean in a general sense that you sell yourself for money. It’s not sexist, there are male whores too. So let’s drop this “distractionary” semantics crap and get back to bizniz. > > Besides, why should anyone care about a bunch that fling slurs and false accusations and lies anyway? For the same reason that it would bug me if someone called Jeffry Dahmer a faggot. It’s a word used to justify violence against innocent people. Using it, even against the scum of the earth, perpetuate the idea that some humans aren’t really people and it’s okay to assault and rape them. ---
**Author:** ![HelenTroy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helentroy/32/86_2.png) [@HelenTroy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenTroy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/297 "2018-06-24T20:26:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You obviously know shit about what it’s like to be in an abusive relationship. Not saying that Melania is in one, but that is complete and utter bullshit. Do you? I do and while I sure as hell allowed a great deal of harm to come to myself, I’m sure I would never be able to live with myself if I were used as the pretty front for a fascist. Look, fervour is an idiot and somewhat manic, but there is a good pitting in here if you ignore him. The first lady of the United States wore a jacket on her way to some concentration camps for kiddos proclaiming she has zero fucks to give. Sure sure, she took it off before she got there, but come on! Whether it was about them, her husband, the media, or whatever goddamn excuse will be used for her behavior, it is deplorable. How can you argue against how vile this is? This is who we are now as a country and it’s a wonder we all aren’t going a little mad. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/298 "2018-06-24T21:38:29Z")
Quickly checking out Fervour’s posting history it seems that he stayed awake more than two solid days, so no wonder he was incoherent. And now nothing for twenty or so hours. Hope he’s still alive… Kids, don’t do drugs ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/299 "2018-06-24T21:42:28Z")
This seems as good a place to post this as anywhere. Periodically (pun intended) I receive in the mail copies of magazines I didn’t order. (No, they’re not misdelivered – they’re addressed to me.) I think some algorithm identifies me as someone who might actually want to subscribe. Two years ago, I received a few copies of DuJour Magazine. In looking for it online, I saw that they position themselves as being for the 1%, which means that in my case their algorithm really screwed the pooch. In looking at the periodical, I thinks that’s just their schtick – they’re marketing those who want to be the 1% – but again in my case they screwed the pooch. The point is though that in May 2016 their cover story [was about Melania Trump.](http://staging.dujour.com/news/melania-trump-interview/) I found the article, as you might expect, to be somewhat fawning. The part I remembered was this: > [@](#): > > Earlier that day, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews was caught ogling her walk, accidentally muttering on-air: “My God, is that good. I could watch that runway show.” > > “Unbelievable,” she says of Matthews’ comment. “That’s what I’m saying! I’m not only a beauty, I’m smart. I have brains. I’m intelligent.” She exhales, adding: “I would just say, Men will be men.” > > She uses that same phrase—“Men will be men”—when asked about Donald’s old appearances on Howard Stern’s show, which recently resurfaced online. Stern once asked if Donald would stay with Melania if she suffered a horrific car accident, and he replied: “How do the breasts look?” A similar vibe was conveyed when Trump came out on stage at a town-hall meeting at the University of Pennsylvania in 1999 and shouted, “Where’s my supermodel?” Personally, I find that whole “men will be men” bit to be very insulting to men. Do those of you who are men find it so? At any rate, the article is worth a read. I think it fleshes her out a bit. IMO it doesn’t make her less reprehensible, but YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/300 "2018-06-24T23:28:37Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > Personally, I find that whole “men will be men” bit to be very insulting to men. Do those of you who are men find it so? More eye-rolly than insulting, in the same way that I respond to people angry at all white people. It sucks that her experience with men is so negative, and that she’s drawn shitty conclusions from it, but it doesn’t really affect me enough for me to feel insulted. The shit that’s led her to that conclusion is way more important than the conclusion itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=16)