# Melania Trump is a piece of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555 "2018-06-22T03:24:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/301 "2018-06-25T02:09:00Z")
Yo, **fervour** , did you [go to your local protest today?](https://twitter.com/JohnT15/status/1011051396962144256?s=19) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/302 "2018-06-25T02:14:44Z")
Quite the lyrical script ending, **LHoD** , with “Dachau of our soul”. Great job - as this Canuck wishes he coulda done the same. Hope [**FervourDream**](https://youtu.be/IxBlQS-Jb6Y?t=55) is all good n’rested, maybe downed a jar of vitamins or something. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/303 "2018-06-25T02:17:46Z")
Hmmm… it is my script, Id!. And “Dachau of our soul” is a direct lift from Dan Simmons’s _Fall of Hyperion_, a line so good I remembered it for 25+ years. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/304 "2018-06-25T02:44:48Z")
ok where’s that jar of vitamins. 😛 pardonez moi, **JohnT** you know - with the whole **LHoD** singularity thing coming upon us… ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/305 "2018-06-25T03:50:50Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You obviously know shit about what it’s like to be in an abusive relationship. Not saying that Melania is in one, but that is complete and utter bullshit. Wtf do you know? You don’t know what I’ve been through. You don’t even know if she is in an abusive relationship, but you sure are ready to spout off. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/306 "2018-06-25T04:21:29Z")
I hope all the liberals who don’t want to keep children in cages will give credit where credit is due. [One illegal immigrant was released after only two weeks of detention](http://en.rfi.fr/americas/20180623-french-woman-who-accidentally-crossed-canada-us-border-held-2-weeks): > [@](#): > > Cedella Roman, 19, ran across the [unmarked beach] border just south of the town of White Rock in Canada’s British Columbia, into the US state of Washington on the evening of 21 May… She headed back when the tide began to come in, going up toward a dirt path before stopping to take a photo of the stunning scenery, then turned around to retrace her steps. > It was then that she was apprehended by two US Border Patrol officers who told her she had crossed illegally and had been caught on camera… > Roman protested that she hadn’t seen any warning signs, and didn’t initially anticipate how serious the matter would become. > > “I said to myself, well I may have crossed the border – but they’ll probably only give me a fine or they’ll tell me to go back to Canada or they’ll give me a warning.” > > Complicating matters, Roman, who had come to Canada to visit her mother and work on her English, wasn’t carrying any government-issued ID on her at the time. > > She was transferred by the officers to the Tacoma Northwest Detention Center, run by the Department of Homeland Security, 200 kilometers to the south. > > “They put me in the caged vehicles and brought me into their facility,” she said. > … > > When she reached the center, she contacted her mother, Christiane Ferne, who quickly reached the center with her passport and study permits – but the workers at the site said the documents would have to be verified by Canadian authorities. (BTW, when I searched for this story at [NewsLookup.Com](http://NewsLookup.Com), all ten of the first ten hits were from foreign news sources. Bravo to U.S. media for suppressing this news which might strike terror into the hearts of some Americans, and thus help do the evil-doers’ work.) With the passport arriving the same day, Homeland Security went into over-drive and were able to release Miss Roman from jail just 14 days later! Except for routine full-body searches, Miss Roman was not subject to torture and was provided with food rations throughout her 2-week incarceration. Although dressed skimpily for beach running, Miss Ramon might have been carrying a dirty bomb, hidden in her body part. Although she was running back toward the sanctuary of Canada when apprehended, that might be because she’d seen the border police. Terrorist threat averted. Make America Great Again. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/307 "2018-06-25T19:02:55Z")
[OK, this may be a stretch, but:](https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210784436) I Really Don’t Care (“Me Ne Frego”) was the slogan of early Italian fascists. The slogan has resurfaced in Italy and guys like Bannon, Gorka, and Miller are huge fans of the resurgent fascist movement in Italy. So Melania is saying they’re all fascists and stop trying to pretend otherwise. Not being familiar with the Italian language or history, this one has me skeptical. Maybe those with more knowledge could render an opinion as to how crazy this is. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/308 "2018-06-25T19:15:52Z")
Melanie went to school in Italy, it’s where she got her start as a “model”. Have ZERO idea if one lead to the other, but it is a data point as to where she may have heard it before. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/309 "2018-06-27T04:25:27Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You obviously know shit about what it’s like to be in an abusive relationship. Not saying that Melania is in one, but that is complete and utter bullshit. Trump is abusive to everyone and it’s been documented. Why would he treat her any different??? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/310 "2018-06-27T04:47:40Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > [OK, this may be a stretch, but:](https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210784436) > > I Really Don’t Care (“Me Ne Frego”) was the slogan of early Italian fascists. The slogan has resurfaced in Italy and guys like Bannon, Gorka, and Miller are huge fans of the resurgent fascist movement in Italy. So Melania is saying they’re all fascists and stop trying to pretend otherwise. > > Not being familiar with the Italian language or history, this one has me skeptical. Maybe those with more knowledge could render an opinion as to how crazy this is. …this is an article by Giovanni Tiso, a local guy I follow on twitter who is both reputable and knows his shit. > **[A brief (fascist) history of 'I don't care'](https://bat-bean-beam.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-brief-fascist-history-of-i-dont-care.html)** > > A weblog on memory, technology and politics ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/311 "2018-06-27T04:54:05Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …this is an article by Giovanni Tiso, a local guy I follow on twitter who is both reputable and knows his shit. > > [Bat, Bean, Beam: A brief (fascist) history of 'I don't care'](https://bat-bean-beam.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-brief-fascist-history-of-i-dont-care.html) Ooops! A dog whistle has become a bullhorn. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/312 "2018-06-27T14:13:06Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > A dog whistle has become a bullhorn. Why not [both](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092494/reference)? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/313 "2018-06-27T16:07:22Z")
> [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](#): > > Wtf do you know? You don’t know what I’ve been through. You don’t even know if she is in an abusive relationship, but you sure are ready to spout off. Because I’m sick of the whole, “well, she has power, she’s not trapped!” IF, for the sake of argument, she is in an abusive relationship, that doesn’t necessarily hold true. Money and fame aren’t absolute protection, sadly. Fuck if I know what’s going on between the two of them, but the whole, “she can always leave!” could be bullshit. That’s one thing I hate hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/314 "2018-06-27T17:02:48Z")
> [@Abortion for Men!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-for-men/1003/33): > > Fuck if I know what’s going on between the two of them, but the whole, “she can always leave!” could be bullshit. That’s one thing I hate hearing. I am inclined to agree, but it does leave me conflicted. There’s an assumption there that no married woman has any agency, and we do no one any favors. She can both be abused and be a terrible person. and we have the right to censor her for her actions, and to suggest that if those actions are a condition of her relationship, then she has the ability to remove herself from criticism by ending the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/315 "2018-06-27T17:23:45Z")
Absolutely – and I’ve never said I was a fan of Melania’s, for the record. (Personally, I’m indifferent to her) ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/316 "2018-06-27T18:17:36Z")
She could also be an amoral golddigger, I don’t get why so many people feel the need to defend her or assume she’s being threatened or abused or otherwise she’d be a lovely liberal who’d protest Trump I if she had the chance. I guess she’s just as narcissistic and shitty as Donald. Quite possibly just as racist too. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/317 "2018-06-28T15:43:18Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > \*\*1 - \*\*so many people feel the need to defend her or assume she’s being threatened or abused \*\*2 - \*\*or otherwise she’d be a lovely liberal who’d protest Trump I if she had the chance. (numbering mine) I see the first happening in this thread, but I haven’t seen any of the second. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/318 "2018-06-28T15:49:11Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Ooops! A dog whistle has become a bullhorn. Or a subtle warning? This “I don’t care” was a fascist slogan in Italy at one time, wasn’t it? Since she was in Italy for a while, it’s possible she knows about it. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/319 "2018-07-02T21:42:37Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Melania sued the Daily Mail for printing allegations that she worked as an escort. They settled in 2017 with an apology from the Daily Mail, as well as damages and legal costs paid: [Melania Trump accepts Daily Mail damages and apology in libel case | Melania Trump | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/12/melania-trump-accepts-damages-and-apology-from-daily-mail) > > From the claim: > [INDENT]“The economic damage to the plaintiff’s brand, and licensing, marketing and endorsement opportunities caused by the publication of Mail Online’s defamatory article, is multiple millions of dollars. > > “[The] plaintiff had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multimillion-dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.” [/INDENT] Donald Trump made it pretty clear after his election that he fully intended to monetize the Presidency, backed by a supine GOP congressional majority. Not to single out Melania, but she’s unsurprisingly on board with that. [She’s received six figures from Getty Images](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/melania-quietly-profits-off-news-outlets-using-her-photos) for the use of her likeness with the stipulation that, “They can only be used to accompany positive stories.” So she has a strong basis for claiming economic damages to poorly sources assertions that she worked as an escort, as it could lop a substantial chunk off of her Oval Office financial opportunities. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=15)