# Melania Trump is a piece of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555 "2018-06-22T03:24:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/121 "2018-06-22T20:04:44Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > I’m not going fuck a dead weasel, ewww. Don’t like males? Fuck females. They are over half the population. Did you not notice? You are one. A regular legend in your own mind, aren’t you? Dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/122 "2018-06-22T20:10:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A regular legend in your own mind, aren’t you? > Dismissed. Of course. Me too. Do you think you are the only who can “dismiss” somenone? You have a “dismiss” at your command. I guess that’s why you’re not a mod any longer. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/123 "2018-06-22T20:15:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Fair enough. A marriage for money is a business transaction between consenting adults with full knowledge of each other’s motivations. Neither is more a whore than the other. I would not describe Melania as a “whore”. If you’re going to claim she married for money and security I’d say “concubine” or “trophy wife” would be more appropriate. The former makes it more explicit the trade is sex for something else, but concubines are more likely to be classy, monogamous, and so forth as opposed to taking on all comers, like a whore or prostitute. And if two consenting adults wish to enter into such a relationship where one is a trophy wife it’s none of my business, ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/124 "2018-06-22T20:18:19Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I would not describe Melania as a “whore”. If you’re going to claim she married for money and security I’d say “concubine” or “trophy wife” would be more appropriate. The former makes it more explicit the trade is sex for something else, but concubines are more likely to be classy, monogamous, and so forth as opposed to taking on all comers, like a whore or prostitute. > > And if two consenting adults wish to enter into such a relationship where one is a trophy wife it’s none of my business, Yes, I was gonna say that she is a Gold Digger. Didn’t she also work for an escort service? I can’t look as I’m at work. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/125 "2018-06-22T20:22:01Z")
I wouldn’t call a woman that traded sex for money a “whore”. The only reason to call someone a whore is to dehumanize them. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/126 "2018-06-22T20:27:19Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I wouldn’t call a woman that traded sex for money a “whore”. The only reason to call someone a whore is to dehumanize them. What would you call her? I’m serious. What is the better name? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/127 "2018-06-22T20:32:37Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I wouldn’t call a woman that traded sex for money a “whore”. The only reason to call someone a whore is to dehumanize them. Using that word and/or the word “faggot” as an insult is not justified just because you claim to use either of those words as a self-reference. ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/128 "2018-06-22T20:33:54Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > What would you call her? I’m serious. What is the better name? Wife? Yup, wife. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/129 "2018-06-22T20:38:49Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > got you. Your bridge too far is whore and faggot. Actually imprisoning kids-----it’s like well, what are you gonna do? You really are coming off like a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/130 "2018-06-22T20:43:35Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Using that word and/or the word “faggot” as an insult is not justified just because you claim to use either of those words as a self-reference. I get it. You’re not a faggot What word do you choose for a woman who sells her body? It’s not a rhetorical question. What do you want me to call her? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/131 "2018-06-22T20:50:07Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > You’re broken **fervour**. I don’t know if you’re fixable. A banned-aid could fix the problem. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/132 "2018-06-22T20:52:09Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You really are coming off like a fucking idiot. I didn’t wear an I-don’t-care trench coat. What do you call someone who married someone who married for money? It’s not a rhetorical question. You guys haven’t answered the question. It’s out there… What do YOU call this person? ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/133 "2018-06-22T20:55:30Z")
**fervour** , isn’t it possible that you’re so angry right now that you are thrashing around? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/134 "2018-06-22T20:57:16Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > What would you call her? I’m serious. What is the better name? I’d never make the nature of a person’s sexual relationships into a basis for an insult. If I wanted to describe someone’s actual occupation because it was relevant, I’d call them a prostitute or an escort or a sex worker. My strong preference would be to use the term she (or he) used themselves. Look, I am withholding judgment on this particular woman because I think it’s sincerely possible that she’s in justified fear for her life and the life of those close to her. I think it’s plausible she’s been literally battered. But if I did want to express my utter and complete disgust for her (or any other woman), there’s a hundred ways to do that that don’t involve perpetuating a deeply held cultural belief that it’s okay to beat, rape, and kill women because of their sexual history. I could call her a bitch, a monster, a pathetic creature lacking the slightest shred of empathy, a waste of flesh, an idiot, a demon in human form, a souless psychotic . . . Jesus, if you really think the only way to insult her is to come at her for her sexual choices, you don’t really have much of an axe to grind with her. It’s okay to fuck people. It’s okay to fuck people for reasons others don’t agree with. No amount of (consensual) fucking of other people will lower your worth as a human, nor make you worthy of scorn. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/135 "2018-06-22T20:58:54Z")
> [@wintertime](#): > > **fervour** , isn’t it possible that you’re so angry right now that you are thrashing around? No. tell that to the 2000 kids imprisoned. They matter. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/136 "2018-06-22T21:02:31Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > What do you call someone who married someone who married for money? It’s not a rhetorical question. You guys haven’t answered the question. It’s out there… What do YOU call this person? A spouse. In her case, a wife. You think she is the sort of person who flaunts not caring about kids. But what you want to insult about her are the reasons she has sex. The one has nothing to do with the other. Why do you need to even bring it up? Do you think that woman who have sex for money are sub-human? Do you have scorn for them? Do you think that they are tainted, and should have the decency to remove themselves from polite society? When they get raped and beaten and killed, do you think cops should treat those crimes differently, both because their testimony cannot be believed and because doing those things to a whore is a fundamentally different crime than doing them to a decent woman? Because all those things are fundamentally linked to the word “whore”. ---
**Author:** ![fervour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@fervour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fervour)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/137 "2018-06-22T21:03:57Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I’d never make the nature of a person’s sexual relationships into a basis for an insult. > > If I wanted to describe someone’s actual occupation because it was relevant, I’d call them a prostitute or an escort or a sex worker. My strong preference would be to use the term she (or he) used themselves. > > Look, I am withholding judgment on this particular woman because I think it’s sincerely possible that she’s in justified fear for her life and the life of those close to her. I think it’s plausible she’s been literally battered. But if I did want to express my utter and complete disgust for her (or any other woman), there’s a hundred ways to do that that don’t involve perpetuating a deeply held cultural belief that it’s okay to beat, rape, and kill women because of their sexual history. I could call her a bitch, a monster, a pathetic creature lacking the slightest shred of empathy, a waste of flesh, an idiot, a demon in human form, a souless psychotic . . . Jesus, if you really think the only way to insult her is to come at her for her sexual choices, you don’t really have much of an axe to grind with her. > > It’s okay to fuck people. It’s okay to fuck people for reasons others don’t agree with. No amount of (consensual) fucking of other people will lower your worth as a human, nor make you worthy of scorn. Did you call your senators and representative? ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/138 "2018-06-22T21:03:59Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Now universe, I know elucidator hasn’t been a very good pantheist, but is it too much to ask for Melania to make a joint appearance with Hillary in support of…something? Orphaned immigrant babies? Colin Kaepernick? Burger King’s chicken fries? Any damn thing at all? Yes it is. Sorry. Virtually anything whatsoever is too much to ask of this clothes hanger. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/139 "2018-06-22T21:07:08Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > No. tell that to the 2000 kids imprisoned. They matter. OK, you’ve convinced me. You’re a better person than everyone else who is upset about this because you think it justifies making sexual insults. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555/140 "2018-06-22T21:11:21Z")
> [@fervour](#): > > Did you call your senators and representative? If I did, does that change whether or not it’s appropriate to call someone a whore? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trump-is-a-piece-of-shit/816555.md?page=8)