# Melania Trump's (semi) nude photo shoot?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 21, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468 "2016-07-21T04:09:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/61 "2016-07-24T16:12:52Z")

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When an eel  
Bites your heel  
Like a loin chop of veal  
That’s a moray!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/62 "2016-07-24T16:49:12Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> _O tempura! O morays!_

Stunning in its brilliance and brevity! I don’t recall reading any post so chucklesome and yet, indictable. Except for **Vinny Turnip**. of course.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/63 "2016-07-24T18:20:00Z")

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Meh, if what it takes to create a realistic “so what” standard for the past of presidential relatives is Melania Trump having done glamour modeling(\*) back in her day, I’ll take it. About time.

BTW it seems we do have a reasonable standard to be applied and we’ve done so, for male politicians: nude/glamour scenes/shots in legit modeling or acting gigs (Arnold S., Scott Brown) good; sexting dick pics (Weiner) not good. Let’s just extend it to spouses and offspring and both genders. And for that matter outside of politics.  
And yeah, it’s all really more of a thing about demanding that First Ladies be some sort of archetype of a particularly old and stolid definition of “classy ladylike” conduct, that we really should get over; I must admit I see the failure to do so tends to be more decried by the R’s against the D’s than viceversa, just my perception. Plus, one can’t get over the feeling that if it were the Dem candidate who were three times married and his latest were a much younger glamour model, it would be waved around as proof of inherent liberal moral depravity.  
(\* “glamour modeling” = trade talk for “modeling where you are mostly naked, but which we don’t want to call nude because we want it published in respectable mags” 😛 )

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/64 "2016-07-24T20:57:46Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That reads like parody of outrage, as opposed to actual outrage. It could easily have come from ThinkProgress. (Outrage, outraged = shocked, shocked)

> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’m sorry, but that reads like sarcasm to me.

I’d call it snark. And that was the best I can do.

There were reports upthread of a Salon article alleging lots of hand wringing in comments sections, which I’m guessing is what Fox News was riffing off of. But I can’t find evidence of Republican politicians or conservative media commentators criticizing the first lady for her fashion choices, though there were allegations of controversy in the fashion mags.

Here’s a roundup of the main articles for reference:

> **[Michelle Obama: The right to bare arms? - USATODAY.com](http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/fashion/2009-02-26-obama-sleeveless_N.htm)**
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> Michelle Obama knows how to impress her friends. The emerald, tea-length dress she wore Wednesday night to present the Library of Congress Gershwin Prize to Stevie Wonder was designed by the singer's wife, Kai Milla. But that close connection...

> **[Obama's Choice to Bare Arms Causes Uproar](https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6986019&page=1)**
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> First lady Michelle Obama is known for her toned arms and fashion choices, but Barack Obama's spouse is getting criticism for baring her arms in her first official White House photograph.

> **[Fashion pack blast Michelle Obama over her right to bare arms in official photo](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1158643/Fashion-pack-blast-Michelle-Obama-right-bare-arms-official-photo.html)**
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> The fashionistas have got their knives out for the First Lady after she showed off her toned triceps and biceps in her first official photograph.

Here’s the tell. The best this rag could do was to pull out poor Bobbie Lussier from Manassas, Virginia.

> **[Conservatives Criticize Michelle Obama For Bare Arms, Stay Silent On Melania...](https://trueactivist.com/conservatives-criticize-michelle-obama-for-bare-arms-stay-silent-on-melania-trumps-nude-poses-2-t3/)**
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> Since Michelle Obama first became the First Lady of the United States, criticism of basically everything about her has been rampant among right-wing voters with racist and sexist undertones. Among this criticism is the accusation

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/65 "2016-07-24T21:56:20Z")

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It is good to know that the tighty rightys did not needlessly hector Michelle. Given recent evidence that a goodly proportion of them are barking mad, that is some comfort.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/melania-trumps-semi-nude-photo-shoot/760468/66 "2016-07-25T00:15:04Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> There were reports upthread of a Salon article alleging lots of hand wringing in comments sections, which I’m guessing is what Fox News was riffing off of. But I can’t find evidence of Republican politicians or conservative media commentators criticizing the first lady for her fashion choices, though there were allegations of controversy in the fashion mags.

Why should that make a difference, other than Bricker trying to redefine the question according to his terms?

The statements in this thread were all about the conservative _public_. A Twitter or Facebook or letter-to-the-editor offended public certainly existed, in exactly the same way that offensive comments about the Obamas being black certainly were made in the same shallow pools. There may be times in which a single comment anonymously made is not representative of conservative thought; this isn’t one of them.

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