# Memo to Tom Zarek & Felix Gaeta: Frak you!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 28, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523 "2009-10-28T23:28:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/21 "2009-10-30T01:08:17Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> I think we were supposed to guess that the lawyer was a cylon because he had a cat no-one else could see, just like Baltar’s head-Six.

I thought his cat got murdered because Romo defended Baltar then he carried it around in his bag for a few weeks.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/22 "2009-10-30T07:05:13Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I hated what the writer’s did with Gaeta’s character in season 4 and that episode nearly made me walk away from the series. It was pathetic.

I loved it, worked really well for me. But I thought his whole romance in the web series was wasted since it wasn’t referenced in the show except for a few meaningful looks.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/23 "2009-10-30T07:10:30Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> I think we were supposed to guess that the lawyer was a cylon because he had a cat no-one else could see, just like Baltar’s head-Six.

Eh Adama saw his wife for an episode. I think there were other examples.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/24 "2009-10-30T12:44:57Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> I actually don’t believe that Felix and Zarek were villains - the coup may have been rather more bloody than would be ideal, but they were correct to try it. The “Letter From A Colonial Citizen” makes this point more eloquently than I could: [http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/why-tom-zarek-was-right.html](http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/why-tom-zarek-was-right.html)

Ugh. His use of “Cylon” as a collective noun truly bugs me. The show uses “Cylons” all the fraking time - why the hell does he think he’s using that correctly?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/25 "2009-10-30T12:50:20Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I thought his cat got murdered because Romo defended Baltar then he carried it around in his bag for a few weeks.

His cat had died long before that. It was just to show how emotionally damaged and traumatized he’d been from the whole war experience.

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**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/26 "2009-10-30T13:09:19Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Ugh. His use of “Cylon” as a collective noun truly bugs me. The show uses “Cylons” all the fraking time - why the hell does he think he’s using that correctly?

While I agree with you about that article, the cylons refer to themselves collectively as “The Cylon” quite often.

“Thousands of cylons died on that Resurrection ship.”

“Will you tell your children stories of the cylon?”

So he’s not 100% wrong, but it was still (good points aside) annoying to read.

What I loved about “Blood on the Scales” was that the coup would have succeeded if Gaeta just listened to Zarek. I think Zarek executed the quorum not just because they wouldn’t roll over, it was also to convince Gaeta that he needed to execute Adama. Revolution is a bloody thing–the longer you wait to assert complete control, the more likely it is that you will fail. Zarek was right–if they wanted to succeed, they need to spill more blood more quickly.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/27 "2009-10-30T13:37:47Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Ugh. His use of “Cylon” as a collective noun truly bugs me. The show uses “Cylons” all the fraking time - why the hell does he think he’s using that correctly?

Try rereading it, but substitute “the Negro” for “the Cylon”. I think the writer was going for that kind of tone.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memo-to-tom-zarek-felix-gaeta-frak-you/515523/28 "2009-10-30T17:02:32Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Eh Adama saw his wife for an episode. I think there were other examples.

Yes, I think all the scenes of humans with very realistic fantasies were a deliberate mis-direction on the “Who’s the cylon” plot. I also agree with Munch that the lawyer was a representative of all the walking wounded civilians in the fleet.

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