# Memorial weekend beat down courtesy of the New Jersey police.

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**Created:** [May 28, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961 "2018-05-28T13:12:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/1 "2018-05-28T13:12:17Z")

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Couple disturbing things here. Why were the cops on that beach in the first place? It was quiet. The person who took the video had been _asleep_. People were quietly sunning on the beach. Any drinking that took place was not creating a public disturbance.

This was not the time for the long arm of the law to flex it’s muscle. Imho

Drinking always takes place at holiday events. It’s not a problem unless it becomes a loud party. Police normally use discretion. I’ve been at a lot of weekend events throughout my life. Lots of tailgating with coolers of beer and good food. The cops leave you alone UNLESS you are obviously seriously intoxicated.

They ruined the holiday for a lot of people needlessly. The kids crying is really disturbing.

The beat down of a helpless woman by two brawny men is sickening. I hope they are criminally charged. The woman needs to sue the city.  
[https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/emily-weinman-wildwood-police-punch-woman-head-new-jersey-video-watch-946177%3Famp=1](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/emily-weinman-wildwood-police-punch-woman-head-new-jersey-video-watch-946177%3famp=1)

> **[Police launch probe into violent arrest of female beachgoer](https://nypost.com/2018/05/27/police-launch-probe-into-violent-arrest-of-female-beachgoer/)**
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> The cops who got caught on video during a violent scuffle with a young woman on a New Jersey beach have been taken off the street pending a probe into their actions, officials said Sunday. The Wild…

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/2 "2018-05-28T13:17:26Z")

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Forgot to quote details.

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> She said police were checking for underage drinkers Saturday and approached her. She allegedly passed a breathalyzer test but then asked the cops if they had something better to do than stop people from underage drinking on the beach. That’s when things went&nbsp;south.  
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> . “I tripped and fell and the cop tackled me to the ground and smashed my head into the sand. At that point I blacked out and fought any way possible trying to get up and push him off me. That’s when he head locked me by his arm around my neck, punched on me in my head and then he head locked me again but this time choking me, I was gasping for [air].”

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/3 "2018-05-28T18:07:01Z")

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It seems the cops got pissed when she asked them if they had anything better to do. She’d passed the breathalyzer test and her words gave them, they thought, the excuse to take things farther. _How dare she be impertinent?_ they probably thought.

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**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/4 "2018-05-28T18:25:30Z")

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Last year in Maine, police started off Memorial Day by killing a man.

> **[Arundel man dies after armed confrontation with deputies](https://www.bangordailynews.com/2017/05/29/news/york/arundel-man-dies-after-exchanging-gunfire-with-deputies/)**
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> Chad Dionne, 37, “was fatally wounded” during an armed confrontation with deputies from the York County Sheriff's Office on Monday morning.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/5 "2018-05-28T18:33:00Z")

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> [@boffking](#):
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> Last year in Maine, police started off Memorial Day by killing a man.  
> [http://bangordailynews.com/2017/05/29/news/york/arundel-man-dies-after-exchanging-gunfire-with-deputies/](http://bangordailynews.com/2017/05/29/news/york/arundel-man-dies-after-exchanging-gunfire-with-deputies/)

Well, despite the minor point that there are miniscule differences between encountering an armed man who apparently is shooting at you and beating up on a teenager in a swimsuit on a beach, yes, they are the same thing…

/scarcasm

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/6 "2018-05-28T18:43:15Z")

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I saw one report that cops saw liquor near the teen. They did the breathalyzer to see if she’d been drinking. She passed.

That should have been the end of the encounter.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/7 "2018-05-28T20:56:04Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I saw one report that cops saw liquor near the teen. They did the breathalyzer to see if she’d been drinking. She passed.
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> That should have been the end of the encounter.

[NJ.com](http://NJ.com) has an article as well: [Wildwood launches probe after 'alarming' video shows cop punching woman on beach - nj.com](http://www.nj.com/cape-may-county/index.ssf/2018/05/video_police_punching_woman_sparks_investigation.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured)

A commenter said an eyewitness reports that the woman kicked one of the cops in the nads while resisting arrest. However, that should be taken with a giant grain of salt – some [NJ.com](http://NJ.com) commenters tend to be of the 4chan/SJW sux ilk.

If you’re in the mood for a truly jawdropping tale of police hijinks, read this exciting article featuring a dildo named Big Blue, shoe shitting, ball-grabbing, nd so, so much more about the Mountainside Keystone Cops: [Dildo named 'Big Blue,' homophobia were regular parts of this police department, suit claims - nj.com](http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2018/05/mountainside_police_officers_file_lawsuit.html)

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/8 "2018-05-28T23:34:41Z")

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I added a link of this story to the pit. These cops deserve everything that comes to them. Even if this is “lawful”, it didn’t need to happen.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=736919&page=273](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=736919&page=273)

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/9 "2018-05-29T06:44:19Z")

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Wildwood NJ cops have long had a reputation of being nuts. It’s a wild teenage drinking beach town with a police force to match.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/10 "2018-05-29T13:31:47Z")

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It seems to me that cops in that situation should be just patrolling the beach and making sure everyone is okay and not having any problems. Is it that hard to let people have a good time on a beach on a holiday?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/11 "2018-05-29T14:07:58Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Couple disturbing things here. Why were the cops on that beach in the first place? It was quiet. The person who took the video had been _asleep_. People were quietly sunning on the beach. Any drinking that took place was not creating a public disturbance.

She was underage and in possession of alcohol. Alcohol is prohibited on the beach. One is breaking a state law the other is a township ordinance. The ordinance is posted at the entrances to the beach. The cops were on the beach to enforce the laws and township ordinances which she was breaking. “Public disturbance” is not an element of of either the law or the ordinance.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/12 "2018-05-29T19:02:31Z")

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As usual, some incomplete video is posted and everyone is an expert. The PD says they will release body cam video that supports the officers actions. Why not wait before passing judgement?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/13 "2018-05-29T20:18:46Z")

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To further explain to the OP why cops were on the beach, 2 years ago the beach there was totally trashed over Memorial Day weekend. The clean up cost the town a lot and also involved a lot of underage drinking. This is one of the few beaches in New Jersey that are free to use so the cost of clean up isn’t paid directly by the tourists. Increased patrols were demanded by the residents.

[https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2016/05/memorial\_day\_mess\_tourists\_trash\_wildwood\_beaches.amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2016/05/memorial_day_mess_tourists_trash_wildwood_beaches.amp)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/14 "2018-05-29T21:57:36Z")

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I understand the need to patrol the beaches.

The officer’s violent actions needs to be looked into and corrected.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/15 "2018-05-29T22:05:23Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I understand the need to patrol the beaches.
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> The officer’s violent actions needs to be looked into and corrected.

According to the second sentence in your OP you do not understand the need to patrol the beaches.

I have seen a lot of comments on articles saying that police are not allowed to hit people. You don’t have that mistaken opinion do you?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/16 "2018-05-29T22:39:05Z")

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I know force is sometimes necessary.

It appears excessive in the video. That will be determined by the investigation and any future court cases.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memorial-weekend-beat-down-courtesy-of-the-new-jersey-police/814961/17 "2018-06-06T18:56:36Z")

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Just saw additional footage on the news. The cops may have been attempting to detain her for a possible parole violation when she resisted/assaulted the cops.
