# Memories of JDT. Man sues for circumcision **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 28, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199 "2001-02-28T14:15:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mblackwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@mblackwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mblackwell)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/21 "2001-03-01T03:08:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Hmmm…well, I did hear someone say that they can restore the foreskin-with some special device the skin will elongate or something? I’ll look it up. I can’t believe I remember this, but its called a Tug-Ahoy. It was discussed in some of JDT’s threads, or the ones making fun of him. ---
**Author:** ![SpinneZiege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SpinneZiege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpinneZiege)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/22 "2001-03-01T04:57:16Z")
After reading that report, I am really starting to hate my mother for what she had done to me at birth. And, apparently, I’m not the only Canadian: > [@](#): > > From **Yahoo! News** > [Canada Debates Validity of Male Circumcision](http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010226/sc/canada_circumcision_dc_1.html) > > TORONTO (Reuters) - Canadian anti-circumcision crusaders are challenging a law protecting women against genital mutilation as a way to draw attention to much more common male circumcision. > > The court challenge led by Dr. Arif Bhimji has sparked a heated debate that pits subscribers to modern human rights tenets against followers of age-old religious traditions. > > ``We are saying that this section is discriminatory because it provides protection to females but it does not provide the same protection to males,’’ said Bhimji, an emergency-room physician and a Muslim who heads the anti-circumcision Association for Genital Integrity. > > He argues that the section of the criminal code concerning aggravated assault violates the Canadian Charter on Rights and Freedoms, which guarantees equality between the sexes. Here’s my new theory: Jack Dean Tyler has moved to Canada, [gotten dual citizenship](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=61317), joined the [International Coalition for Genital Integrity](http://www.icgi.org/), and found Allah. _ponders missing foreskin_ ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Shadowfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfox)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/23 "2001-03-01T05:07:57Z")
The problem I see here is that this guy is suing the wrong people. The physician at the hospital would have never performed this procedure without the permission of at least one of his parents. That’s right guys! Are you feeling deprived because you’re missing your foreskin? Then go ahead and sue your mom and pop because they gave the doctors permission to snip your manhood to begin with. I have three sons who were all circumcised. Should I start spending their inheritance now, so there will be nothing left to sue over when they grow up and realize how their mom deprived them of a decent sex life because I had the audacity to have them circumcised? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/24 "2001-03-01T05:18:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sofa King \* > \*\*Curse your impudence! > \*\* Rather that than impotence. This post made without the use of the—DAMNIT! I used an F! [sub]Am I the only circumcised guy here who’s glad he was circumcised?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/25 "2001-03-01T07:22:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Foreskinologist Kristen O’Hara’s study of 139 women—all of whom had partaken of penises of both varieties … But how could she be a Foreskinologist? As JDT told us ad nauseum, there has been absolutely no study devoted to the foreskin. None. Nada. Except for the research, he, the undisputed King of All Foreskins, had conducted. And I was SO hoping that guys like him were an endangered species… ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/26 "2001-03-01T08:07:35Z")
Though maybe it is done today, consent for circumcision was not always asked for in the past. My mother actually had to argue with the hospital staff to keep them from circumcising me in 1972. ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/27 "2001-03-01T13:25:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > **Am I the only circumcised guy here who’s glad he was circumcised?** Well, I’m not unhappy about it…it’s a “can’t miss what you’ve never had” deal. Plus, I don’t buy that line about ladies enjoying 'em more unsnipped, anyway. I mean, sure I’ve got performance anxiety, but I’m not insane about it. Ladies, is the article accurate? Do uncircumcised males make for a better experience in the sack? ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/28 "2001-03-01T14:12:14Z")
No, **Beelzebubba** , it is not correct. No offense to the uncut, but because I find that vaguely weird looking, it effects my enjoyment of the act. Besides, cut or not, if you don’t know what you’re doing, a little skin isn’t going to make it better. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/29 "2001-03-01T14:12:41Z")
I am a big fan ridiculous rationalizations, so I love this. 'I’m not sexually inadequate!!! _I’m a victim of a heinous medical procedure!!!_ Priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2001, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/30 "2001-03-01T14:14:11Z")
a big fan **of** And I previewed. I _did!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Habitual\_Chameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f475e1/32.png) [@Habitual\_Chameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habitual_Chameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2001, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/31 "2001-03-02T16:14:49Z")
“In the male rat, removal of the penile sheath markedly interferes with normal penile reflexes and copulation. When circumcised rats were paired with sexually experienced females, they had more difficulty obtaining an erection, more difficulty inserting the penis into the vagina, and required more mounts to inseminate than did unaltered males.” How easy is it to circumcise a rat??? On another note, how come I don’t get asked to participate in these studies? (“women who had partaken of both”) How do you get INCLUDED in a study like that? ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2001, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/32 "2001-03-02T17:34:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Hmmm…well, I did hear someone say that they can restore the foreskin-with some special device the skin will elongate or something? I’ll look it up. > > (That said, I still don’t believe in circumsizing babies, just because I don’t see a point.) \*\* But the point, of course, is that you _do_ get to see the point. :rolleyes: Bob the Untrimmed Expert ---
**Author:** ![Billy\_Rubin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billy_rubin/32/3622_2.png) [@Billy\_Rubin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy_Rubin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/33 "2001-03-02T23:47:52Z")
1. How and WHY would you circumcise a rat? 2. Who paid for that? Not me, I hope… 3. Removal of the foreskin in male humans does make the glans less sensitive, thus making it possible for him to “last” longer, a benefit to both the male and female, 4)Interferon manufactured from harvested foreskin tissue used to be thought the best anti-cancer drug there was, and 4. those dangly wobbly floppy suckers sure do look silly, don’t they? Not that they are exactly pretty cut either… Great thread, folks! ---
**Author:** ![Marvel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marvel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/34 "2001-03-03T02:08:15Z")
(Quote from Beelzebubba) - “Ladies, is the article accurate? Do uncircumcised males make for a better experience in the sack?” First of all, with a SDMB name like yours, you’ll certainly be glad to know I’m doing a Mojo Nixon special the first Wednesday in April. Yes, I will play “Debbie Gibson is Pregnant with My Two-Headed Love Child.” Second, I’ve not noticed a difference between the two types of penises (peni?) during “regular” sex, but that may be due to them all wearing condoms. HOWEVER, I did notice a little extra something rubbing up against my back teeth during fellatio… On a totally different subject, does anyone know how I may shrink the font in my sig so it doesn’t take up so much space? Please explain it to this non-techophile in 25 laymen terms or less at [p\_marvel@yahoo.com](mailto:p_marvel@yahoo.com) . And now I will do a search to see just how big a moron this JDT really is… Patty ---
**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/35 "2001-03-03T02:48:45Z")
Wait just a minute here. I’m a bit confused. The men I’ve been with sure have looked _real_ damn happy when they reach, well, you know, that moment of maximum joy. But this guy is saying that it’s supposed to be _better?_ How? _How_ does it get better? Besides his foreskin (and a connection between the hemispheres of his brain), just what does he think he’s missing? ---
**Author:** ![meek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@meek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meek)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/36 "2001-03-03T08:40:56Z")
How can any guy miss something they only had for a few hours beyond birth? I mean, it’s not like they had a chance to **bond** or anything…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/37 "2001-03-03T09:24:37Z")
Oh I wish I had a O-ring on my weiner…then my weiner could be sex-u-ally free… Another woman checking in who’s had experience with both cut and un-cut (not a whole lot with uncut though…mostly because of the visual and my need to crack “turtle” jokes when I see them) Obviously I prefer circumcised. I had my son circumcised, but I did some research on it. My main reason for having it done was, “Circumcised males have an almost zero possibility of penile cancer”. True, it’s a rather rare form of cancer, but face it guys…do you EVEN want to consider skin cancer _THERE_??! Is that a good enough reason for something he won’t remember? (Sidenote…In the USMC, TG knew a man who needed to get circumcised at a later age, 20’s-ish, and HE had difficulty going through it then) For those who say “Cite, please” the only reasonably objective site I could find was [http://www.scienceagogo.com/forums/](http://www.scienceagogo.com/forums/) It seems the 'net is wholeheartedly against circumsion these days…:wallowing in the jewish mother guilt now: ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/38 "2001-03-03T09:28:55Z")
oh yeah…:d’oh: Sorry for the hijack there…read one of the old J-D-T threads in the pit…what an ass. (Hey JDT…I doubt the doc slipped when he circumcised you…your mom told me you always had a little dick) Whoopsie…someone needs to limit my wine intake when I’m PMS’ing…sorry 'bout that. :goes back to quietly lurking until I return to normal: ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/39 "2001-03-03T16:54:48Z")
Habitual Chameleon quoted the O’Hara article: > [@](#): > > “In the male rat, removal of the penile sheath markedly interferes with normal penile reflexes and copulation. When circumcised rats were paired with sexually experienced females, they had more difficulty obtaining an erection, more difficulty inserting the penis into the vagina, and required more mounts to inseminate than did unaltered males.” Unfortunately, rat penises are not really comparable with human penises. Rats are a “hard plug” species. When a boy rat ejaculates inside a girl rat, his semen congeal into a hard lump that blocks other male-rat-semen from getting into the female’s uterus. In order to get around such a “hard plug” left by a previous male-rat suitor, a rat’s penis is long and very narrow. The male rat pokes his penis around inside the female rat’s vagina, trying to get past the hard plug and slip his penile tip into her cervical opening. (Much like pigs do, according to [this Cecil Adams article](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_060.html).) Humans, on the other hand, are a “soft plug” species. We men don’t leave hardened lumps behind in our honeys’ honeypots. Instead, we leave a soft, gooey layer covering her cervix. This is why human sex involves so much pumping and such a snug fit – the male is inadvertently trying to suck the previous mate’s soft-plug off of the cervix with the pumping action. The female orgasm, which causes the cervix to thrust forward, may also help to disengage an existing soft-plug. With two different kinds of penises designed for two different kinds of jobs (poking versus pistoning), you cannot draw any conclusions about the effect of circumcision on humans by looking at the effect of circumcision on rats. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2001, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199/40 "2001-03-03T21:39:52Z")
Circumcise a rat? I dunno. I prefer to circumvent them, or, failing that, circumambulate them. –Nott [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memories-of-jdt-man-sues-for-circumcision/56199.md?page=3)