# Men are inherent escape artists, yes? no? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235 "2011-05-17T19:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert\_Reid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Robert\_Reid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert_Reid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/1 "2011-05-17T19:30:50Z")
> **[Arnold Schwarzenegger admits fathering employee's child](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13429248)** > > Former California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger acknowledges he fathered a child with a member of his household staff more than 10 years ago. He has always been the nicest guy. “Sometimes I behave badly.” Posited: most men are apt to behave badly for a reason. What is that reason for? The eternal conflict of the sexes, yes? Cure (I think there is no cure) Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/2 "2011-05-17T19:41:14Z")
> [@Robert\_Reid](#): > > Thoughts? You shouldn’t drink the bong water before starting threads about fidelity. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/3 "2011-05-17T19:42:33Z")
I don’t know. Try to make it coherent, and I’ll offer my opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/4 "2011-05-17T19:43:13Z")
A celebrity’s unfaithfulness is not a basis for painting 50% of the population with a wide brush. Argument fail. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/5 "2011-05-17T19:44:47Z")
Goddam motherfucking cocksucker! That filthy Nazi bastard Schwarzenegger ought to be raped by bears. And fuck anyone who disagrees! Fuck! Shit! Ass! ---
**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/6 "2011-05-17T19:49:54Z")
Wait, are we pitting Arnold? Or just bashing men in general? ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Reid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Robert\_Reid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert_Reid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/7 "2011-05-17T19:52:34Z")
The point is, it isn’t fair to bash men nor women. We are programed to behave in certain ways. He has always been the nicest guy, right? He screws around. He can’t help it. Most guys screw around, more so than women. So, I would rather have a dong than a bong, anyway. Don’t smoke me, please? 😛 A couple of my critics above, I just know they are also males. Males are programmed to be aggressive. There’s a reason for that. Is this discourse retarded by my simplifications already? Am a past-master at retarding conversations. : ) ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/8 "2011-05-17T19:53:39Z")
Impeach him! ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Reid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Robert\_Reid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert_Reid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/9 "2011-05-17T19:58:21Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Goddam motherfucking cocksucker! > That filthy Nazi bastard Schwarzenegger ought to be raped by bears. > And fuck anyone who disagrees! > > Fuck! Shit! Ass! 😃 He is a hero in my book of life. I was a fifteen year old and knew I was gay. I read about him then, over forty years ago. He was quoted as saying…(paraphase), “If a gay guy comes onto me I don’t get insulted. It’s a compliment. I’m not gay, but they are OK.” (words to that effect) That was a time in my life when I was most vulnerable to self-hate. Those were dark years. Arnold made me feel like a human, not a murder-prospect. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/10 "2011-05-17T20:00:46Z")
Unless the staffer didn’t give full consent to the sex, I would note that she is (or was at the time) married as well, and thus in the same situation as Schwarzenegger. ---
**Author:** ![Robert\_Reid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Robert\_Reid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert_Reid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/11 "2011-05-17T20:01:25Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Impeach him! You can’t impeach a peach of a guy. Arnold! Pure Au…Nazi! With a butt-ski…that just won’t quit! \*“Sometimes I behave badly” Adolf HitlerOnHer \* ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/12 "2011-05-17T20:01:52Z")
Dude, I think you are in the wrong forum. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/13 "2011-05-17T20:04:58Z")
If the song “fifty ways to leave your lover” is any indication, I am going to go with a yes on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/14 "2011-05-17T20:19:43Z")
And the hell of it is, I had to click the link to see if you were talking about Arnold or Strauss-Kahn. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/15 "2011-05-17T20:25:11Z")
> [@Robert\_Reid](#): > > Most guys screw around, more so than women. Well, it does explain all the gay bars… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/16 "2011-05-17T20:26:02Z")
> [@Robert\_Reid](#): > > He has always been the nicest guy, right? [Say](http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=46901)[what](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/10/usa.film)? ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/17 "2011-05-17T20:27:25Z")
Oh will you go and stick your fucking hands in the blender, you suppurating gutterfuck? You’re nigh incomprehensible and fucking retarded. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/18 "2011-05-17T20:34:29Z")
Women are always tricking successful married men into impregnating them. They can’t help it, I guess. They’re wired for it. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/19 "2011-05-17T20:38:44Z")
Of course Arnold’s wired that way. His CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer… But Shriver pre-sets the switch to fuck-only when he’s sent out alone. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235/20 "2011-05-17T20:47:19Z")
> [@Robert\_Reid](#): > > Most guys screw around, more so than women. I am a guy. I have never cheated in a relationship. I have had two girlfriends cheat on me and have had someone else’s girlfriend cheat with me (I was not in a relationship at the time), so I would have to say that this is debatable. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-are-inherent-escape-artists-yes-no/582235.md?page=2)