# Men automatically double their sexiness quotient when riding motorcycles

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 21, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698 "2006-04-21T22:22:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/41 "2006-04-22T15:40:15Z")

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> [@Brain Wreck](#):
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> Hey, I saw that episode of ER too, like 12 years ago.

**picunurse** has been in the profession a long time. I’m sure she picked up the phrase well before _ER_. (I first heard it in the '70s.)

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/42 "2006-04-22T15:43:39Z")

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> [@WishIHadACoolName](#):
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> I’m a little annoyed by the whole “donorcycle” thing though. No medical professional can tell me they see more motorcycle deaths/injuries than car deaths/injuries. It’s probably not even proportional to the number of cars:bikes on the roads.

How about the [National Highway Traffic Safety Administration](http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/buses/GTSS/factmotorcycle.html)?

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> Per mile traveled in 1998, motorcyclists were about 16 times as likely as passenger car occupants to die and about 3 times as likely to be injured in a motor vehicle crash.

[Here’s a page that links to their statistics reports](http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-30/ncsa/SDP.html), if you’re interested.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/43 "2006-04-22T19:05:38Z")

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> [@scotandrsn](#):
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> How about the [National Highway Traffic Safety Administration](http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/buses/GTSS/factmotorcycle.html)?

Just to point out – you didn’t address the point (or perhaps I missed it in your links). The statement was:

> [@WishIHadACoolName](#):
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> No medical professional can tell me they see more motorcycle deaths/injuries than car deaths/injuries. It’s probably not even proportional to the number of cars:bikes on the roads.

Let:  
Cd = total number of car deaths  
Ci = total number of car injuries  
Ct = total number of cars on the road (registered, I assume)  
Md = total number of motorcycle deaths  
Mi = total number of motorcycle injuries  
Mt = total number of motorcycles on the road (registered, I assume)

The first point is that she suspects: Cd \> Md and Ci \> Mi.  
The second is: Cd / Ct \> Md / Mt and Ci / Ct \> Mi / Mt.

Again, unless I missed it, your cites point out that motorcycles are more dangerous per mile travelled. I don’t have

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/44 "2006-04-22T20:12:56Z")

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and your point would be? I work in ER, I ride a sport bike, and I ride it fast. I see people who crash cars without seatbelts, and that crash into others. wishIhadacoolname has a point not addresed in those stats, we don’t kill other people, we don’t shave, put on our makeup or talk on a cell phone.

life is short, live it.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/45 "2006-04-22T21:30:40Z")

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Honey, does this bike make my butt look fast?

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**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/46 "2006-04-22T21:47:53Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> I only have [the one](http://pw1.netcom.com/~heliboy/r1.jpg) that I’ve posted here before.

Um, **Johnny L.A** …where in the hell are YOU in this pic?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/47 "2006-04-22T21:52:00Z")

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> [@phall0106](#):
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> Um, **Johnny L.A** …where in the hell are YOU in this pic?

I’m taking the photo.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/48 "2006-04-22T21:53:49Z")

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> [@phall0106\[/quote](#):
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> Um, Johnny L.A…where in the hell are YOU in this pic?

He’s taking it. And on preview, i see he already said so.

> [@outlierrn](#):
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> Honey, does this bike make my butt look fast?
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> [Find your inspiration. | Flickr](http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/outlierrn/detail?.dir=9f04&.dnm=b977scd.jpg&.src=ph)

Very nice.

And I’m with the others who say you gotta die somehow…life is better lived well than long. Quality of life is way, way, _way_, more important than longevity.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/49 "2006-04-22T22:46:17Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> He’s taking it.

[And so I did](http://pw1.netcom.com/~heliboy/ride1.jpg). (I need longer arms.)

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/50 "2006-04-22T23:43:35Z")

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> [@Hal Briston](#):
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> Unreal…I just paged through my entire photo directory, and I don’t have a single pic of my on my bike.

You must be confused. [This](http://bike-exchange.com/fzr1000%20EXUP.jpg) is a bike. [These](http://www.sheepusa.org/images/h_image.jpg) are not.

😉

> [@WishIHadACoolName](#):
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> I’m a little annoyed by the whole “donorcycle” thing though. No medical professional can tell me they see more motorcycle deaths/injuries than car deaths/injuries. It’s probably not even proportional to the number of cars:bikes on the roads. I know of very few bike accidents that were the bikers faults. Pretty much all the others I’ve seen or known about were the fault of a driver in a car.

Here’s more up-to-date info; since 1998, cars have become less dangerous and motorcycles more dangerous.

> [@\[USA Today](#):
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> ([http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-08-motorcycle-deaths\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-08-motorcycle-deaths_x.htm))]In 2003, the most recent year for which statistics are available for motorcycles, the fatality rate was 38.38 per 100 million miles traveled. In 2002, that figure was 34.23.
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> By contrast, the fatality rate for all highway drivers has improved for decades and in 2004 was 1.46 per 100 million miles traveled.

For each 100 million miles driven, death is almost 23.5 times more likely if you’re driving a motorcycle than a car–that’s using the lower 2002 rate, too. They really are Donorcycles. I didn’t need an MD to find those numbers.

> [@WishIHadACoolName](#):
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> I’d rather live a short full life than a long dull one. And the bike adds to our lives. If we are ever in an accident, I’d prefer death, as the rehab from anything else might prove to be more than I can handle.

Just because it’s easy to kill yourself on a motorcycle doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to die if you get in an accident. A friend’s boyfriend got in a nasty motorcycle accident and ended up rehabbing for a torturous year where he lost muscle, got out of shape, always looked like a mess, was constantly miserable and had lost his sex drive. He got better and then dumped her. The way I see it, she wasted a year of her life.

Now, I’m not telling you what to do or what not to do with your life. I’m sure all you motorcycle types are responsible and healthy people and safe drivers–probably better than most car drivers. It’s your life–live it. Just trying to fight a little ignorance, so’s ya know.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/51 "2006-04-22T23:47:14Z")

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D’oh! Preview is my friend…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/52 "2006-04-22T23:58:37Z")

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> [@Omegaman](#):
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> The fat and ugly guys would like to know.

A fat & ugly guy on a bike is about 5x less fat an ugly than a fat & ugly guy in a car or truck.

A fat & ugly guy on a bike says, “I live my own life!”

A fat & ugly guy in a car says, “I spend too much time at the McDonald’s drive through! You gonna eat that donut?”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/53 "2006-04-23T00:39:45Z")

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Hey Mika, wanna go for a ride? I’m on the other end of the state from you. I have one of [these,](http://www.wsw.net/F650/index_files/transalp.JPG) or my favorite like [this](http://www.triumphtiger.net/tigere/grafikk/TriumphTiger-1995-Diabolo_Black-624x434.jpg) one.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/54 "2006-04-23T00:57:03Z")

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Ooooo, the second one is very nice. I love that kind of look.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/55 "2006-04-23T01:18:42Z")

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Although I don’t own a bike now, I do plan to at somepoint in the future (at this rate, it will be about three years once I get my master’s and secure a job.) I’ve noticed something, though:

All the pics in this thread seem to be the street bikje style, no Harley-style. Or the “third” style. I don’t know if it’s really a thrid style, but it’s sort of quasi-Harley. Like older (70’a) Honda CB series, or Yamaha RDs. That’s the style I like. It’s probably the least cool type of motorcycle, but hey, it’s still a motorcycle (as long as it’s not a dirt bike or scooter, it’s cool, right?)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/56 "2006-04-23T01:37:44Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> All the pics in this thread seem to be the street bikje style, no Harley-style. Or the “third” style. I don’t know if it’s really a thrid style, but it’s sort of quasi-Harley. Like older (70’a) Honda CB series, or Yamaha RDs. That’s the style I like.

Cool people don’t drive Harleys. 😛

I think the motorcycles you’re describing are what we used to call UJMs – Universal Japanese motorcycles. Back in the day, if you wanted a dirt bike you’d take the lights off of a UJM and add knobby tires. If you wanted a tourer you’d add a big fairing and saddlebags. They’re what’s known as ‘standard’ category (as opposed to sportbikes like my R1, cruisers like Harleys, tourers like the Honda Gold Winnebago, dirt bikes and dual sports). It seems as if it was in the mid-'80s when motorcycles really started to become specialised.

> [@bouv](#):
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> It’s probably the least cool type of motorcycle, but hey, it’s still a motorcycle (as long as it’s not a dirt bike or scooter, it’s cool, right?)

I suppose they used to not be cool. I mean, if you rode one it might have meant that you couldn’t afford a shiny new ride. But I think they’re cool. Very retro. I wouldn’t mind having a '69 - '71 Honda 750 Four.

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**Author:** ![Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Mrs\_O\_Malley\_s\_Cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs_O_Malley_s_Cow)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/57 "2006-04-23T01:41:42Z")

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Sorry all, I love guys in khakis and button down shirts. The nerdier the better.

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/58 "2006-04-23T01:56:49Z")

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Is it still sexy if you don’t make it 1500 miles without falling once, and calling your brother **riker1384** on your cellphone 3 times to have him come out and help you?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/59 "2006-04-23T02:50:37Z")

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> [@Mrs O'Malley's Cow](#):
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> Sorry all, I love guys in khakis and button down shirts. The nerdier the better.

Don’t get me wrong. Actually, my favorite look is khakis, button-down shirt, and a jacket carelessly flung over his shoulder, with a slight smile. But I am a sucker for bikes, i admit it.

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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-automatically-double-their-sexiness-quotient-when-riding-motorcycles/353698/60 "2006-04-23T03:18:56Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> _Woof._

\<blushes\> - Thanks, m’lady.

> [@bouv](#):
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> Like older (70’a) Honda CB series, or Yamaha RDs. That’s the style I like. It’s probably the least cool type of motorcycle, but hey, it’s still a motorcycle (as long as it’s not a dirt bike or scooter, it’s cool, right?)

I happen to think they’re hecka cool. My first bike was a Honda [CB450](http://www.bikez.biz/ads/showad.php?ad=17711) , my second a Suzuki [Bandit](http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/6366/gallery.html) - although I later put a fairing and hard bags on the Bandito. Awesome bikes, both - and the Bandit, in particular, was a _hit_ with the onlookers. In the mid-90s, the big four all had a “neo-retro” bike on the European market. On the more exotic side of things, some claim that the [Monster](http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/ducati_600_monster_1996.php) basically saved the Ducati factory from going under.

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