# Men going their own way (MGTOW) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022 "2015-06-20T19:21:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 430
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022/430 "2015-06-25T11:55:06Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > I think this has always been a “cautionary tale pushed” by deeply concerned busybodies with nothing better to do than make sure women feel scared about every choice we make. These are the same people telling us we will be nothing but broken husks of regret if we wait to have children, and we will be financially ruined and probably divorced if we do have them. The men we’re talking about in this thread don’t seem to care or appreciate how often this fear-mongering is directed at women, either. And it comes from men and women. Unhelpful reminders about how our eggs shrivel up the day after we turn 35, so don’t wait forever, ladies!. Tsk tsk tsking when women choose to study rather than pursue their MRS degree, as if college isn’t really about learning and making yourself competitive in the workplace. It’s about finding Mr. Right! Threads like this [one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=750259) which espouse the idea that it’s a father’s duty to encourage his daughters to marry early in life, or else she’ll hit 30 and find herself a spinster. And how many times have women been warned about trying to “have it all”? As if “having it all” isn’t something that men have taken for granted for most of modern history? The implication is that women should fear becoming _too_ successful, because success is antithetical to a balanced homelife. Men can’t be expected to be equal co-parents, and of course, forget about expecting them to cook, clean, and all those other girlie things. So a woman who wants to do well career-wise and have a family needs to prepared to “do it all”. This is rubbish. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022)._