# Men going their own way (MGTOW) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022 "2015-06-20T19:21:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 49
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022/49 "2015-06-21T04:05:57Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > If you want to limit your thinking to one tiny corner of a trend, so be it. I think this is likely the tip of an iceberg. > > Marriage rates have been going down for decades. There many contributing factors, including increased women’s rights, but surely one such factor is the decreasing benefits of marriage no longer exceed the increasing costs. > > Maybe this is not a bad thing as such, but there are consequences. A group of men that feel alienated from mainstream society is one of them. I am really pleased to see you take this position. It is having a profound and massive effect on our culture, the world culture possibly and for some reason is scarcely even recognized as a problem. I suspect because the powers to be are not really feeling the effects of it. People in positions of power, even at lower levels tend to loose sight of the fact that men generally do not do well in submissive, nondescript rolls for extended periods of time. I am convinced that it can lower our testosterone levels, or in many cases lead to rebellious defensive behaviors. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow/723022)._