# Men in black 3 - it's better than 2 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113 "2012-05-25T21:26:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/41 "2012-06-06T04:47:56Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > What I remember from MIB 2 is that J’s love interest was K’s alien daughter. Is there any continuation of that in the present film? I feel like I don’t need spoiler tags for this, seeing as it’s a plot point from Men in Black 2, but. . . at the end of that movie, Rosario Dawson’s character shot off into the stars to be the Light of Zartha, etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/42 "2012-06-06T05:57:55Z")
I just realized something: Does anyone else think that what Griffin really showed the Colonel was that J was his son, coming back to save the world? In the theater, I thought it was just the world saving, but I just realized the perhaps it also was the son thing. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/43 "2012-06-06T06:11:02Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I just realized something: > > Does anyone else think that what Griffin really showed the Colonel was that J was his son, coming back to save the world? In the theater, I thought it was just the world saving, but I just realized the perhaps it also was the son thing. Yes, absolutely. Along the same lines, Do you think he showed the Colonel that he was going to die? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/44 "2012-06-06T06:37:40Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Yes, absolutely. Along the same lines, > > Do you think he showed the Colonel that he was going to die? \*Ooooooh. \* I think you might be on to something there. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/45 "2012-06-06T10:34:53Z")
It was okay, but I don’t think there’s any good way to reconcile the events in this movie with those of the first. And I was waiting for a post-credits scene of that bowling-ball-head guy getting his revenge and was disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/46 "2012-06-06T12:00:43Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I feel like I don’t need spoiler tags for this, seeing as it’s a plot point from Men in Black 2, but. . . at the end of that movie, Rosario Dawson’s character shot off into the stars to be the Light of Zartha, etc etc. I know she left, I was wondering if she came back for any part of this movie, or if there was any hint of communication between them or anything, or if she was just as forgotten as the forensic pathologist from the first movie. Who, by the way, they explained away as saying she wanted to rejoin the normal world and they erased her memories. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/47 "2012-06-06T14:03:08Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > I know she left, I was wondering if she came back for any part of this movie, or if there was any hint of communication between them or anything, or if she was just as forgotten as the forensic pathologist from the first movie. Who, by the way, they explained away as saying she wanted to rejoin the normal world and they erased her memories. I think the real reason why she doesn’t appear in the movie is because the series was never really intended to go beyond the first move…then second movie…so there isn’t much cohesiveness between plot lines. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/48 "2012-06-07T00:21:30Z")
Pathologist from the 1st movie was supposed to be in movie 2. But the actress was rumored to be hard to work with and they fired her. ---
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/49 "2012-06-07T11:24:04Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > We were bored last night so we went to see Men in Black 3. The spouse wanted to see it and I was kind of lukewarm (I liked the first one and barely remember the second one). And… > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > > It was…mediocre. When it was over, the two of us looked at each other with a kind of “that was _it?_” kind of look. I mean, we were both completely spoiled by “The Avengers” (which we’ve seen three times already), but this was just a mess. The CGI was terrible–it looked like something that would have been good around 10 years ago–the plot was weird and disjointed, the ending was just bad, and the actors mostly looked like they were phoning in their performances. Will Smith was funny but not up to his usual standards, Josh Brolin as a young K was pretty good, and I liked the guy playing the alien who could see all possible timelines. But other than that…unless you’re really a MIB fan, I’d say save your money, or at least don’t pay full price. We saw it in 2D–I’ve read reviews that say the 3D is badly done, but I can’t vouch for that. Totally agree - and if I remember right K had a love - not O but his girl that he left when he first met the MIB team from the 1st film ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/50 "2012-06-07T14:26:28Z")
> [@Hogfather65](#): > > Totally agree - and if I remember right K had a love - not O but his girl that he left when he first met the MIB team from the 1st film why is it that you think K couldn’t also have feelings for O ? He was resolved that he couldnt go back to the girl, his first love, but met O and also had feelings (or grew to have feelings) that ended up falling apart. none of this is inconsistent with what we knew in MIB1 and what we learned in MIB3. “If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/51 "2012-06-07T15:34:37Z")
We saw uit on Monday. Liked it a lot. I’ve read the director, Barry Sonnenfeld, actually wept tears of joy when he heard Josh Brolin do Tommy Lee Jones the first time. And that a lot of people still think Jones dubbed in Brolin’s dialogue. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/52 "2012-06-07T17:03:32Z")
Linda Fiorentino was the pathologist in the first movie, and (just in one scene) an MIB agent at the end. I don’t know about her being hard to work with; I did hear her salary request for the second movie was a nonstarter. > [@a35362](#): > > He was about 50 when the first movie came out and he’s 65 now. A “rode hard and put away wet” sort of 65, it appears. Or, as J put it, “Those are some city miles, then!” ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/53 "2012-06-07T20:50:58Z")
I saw this last weekend, really liked it. I even enjoyed the ending, which was unexpected and, for me, tied the series together as a trilogy. This was maybe just a shade below the quality of part 1, and leagues above part 2 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113/54 "2012-06-08T00:27:20Z")
Come to think of it, I wish David Cross had been in it. He was in both the first (morgue clerk) and the second (video rental clerk). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-black-3-its-better-than-2-spoilers/623113.md?page=2)