# Men in Kilts-Your take?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 10, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512 "2007-04-10T18:19:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/41 "2007-04-10T21:33:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Sattua]  
I think the big bushy beard is important.  
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Hmmm… Got that. 😃 Got a kilt as well, but an unfortunte laundry incident led to the wool “felting” and shrinking from 5 yards down to well, less, while getting thicker so it doesn’t pleat well. :mad: Oh well, it’s not bad as a table runner, at least.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/42 "2007-04-10T21:42:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Litoris]

[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
…It is my understand from my British (particularly Scottish) friends that while “regimental” (no underclothing) is the norm, when a Queen sits on the throne – out of respect – one may opt for underwear. This is to avoid embarrassing the Queen if the wind picks up enough to expose your man-parts. Of course, I have done no research and have no cites – only what I have been told…  
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Supposedly this happened in front of Queen Victoria. Her Majesty simpley offered her hatpin to the man.

[QUOTE=AskNot]  
In one of those television shows where a crew builds a massive ancient war machine from scratch, one of the builders wore a khaki kilt. He said, when he found out there were women in the crew, he decided he’d have to add underwear to work on the upper parts of the machine. Apparently, a camera looking up at him was okay, but for live women, he’d put on some Jockey shorts.  
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He was afraid one of the women would sue him for sexual harassment? 😃 Of course if a man tried to sue a woman because _he_ looked up _her_ skirt and she didn’t have panties on he be laughed out of court.

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**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/43 "2007-04-10T21:44:58Z")

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[QUOTE=gotpasswords]  
Hmmm… Got that. 😃 Got a kilt as well, but an unfortunte laundry incident led to the wool “felting” and shrinking from 5 yards down to well, less, while getting thicker so it doesn’t pleat well. :mad: Oh well, it’s not bad as a table runner, at least.  
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What I (think I) know about kilts, by LifeOnWry, as learned from some guy at the Ren Faire:

The wool used to make plaids (they’re not kilts until they’ve been folded and are on a body) was shorn from the sheep, dyed, spun, and woven into fabric WITHOUT WASHING. After its assembly into fabric, it was then washed in hot water, which both causes the wool fibers to shrink together (felting) and releases the lanolin that occurs naturally in wool - and thereby renders the fabric tight, warm and waterproof.

Also, “plaid” is fabric, not a pattern. Tartan is the name of the woven, uneven check pattern most of us think of when we hear “plaid.” And, kilts are pleated and folded from plaids by hand in measurements that correspond to the folder/wearer’s body, so all kilts (that are not pre-sewn into pleats) fit the wearer perfectly: for example, pleating begins one arm’s length from the edge, and individual pleats are the width of the wearer’s hand.

WRT regimental: men of old in Scotland wore very long shirts that knotted between the legs.

Or so sayeth the guy who told me all this stuff.

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**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/44 "2007-04-10T21:50:23Z")

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I’m for 'em.

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/45 "2007-04-10T23:57:25Z")

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Some friends got married at Ren Faire many years ago and we all went in costume. I traded a bottle of Scotch for a full Highland Laird’s getup - wraparound kilt, shirt, vest, tamoshanter (the hat that someone was asking about), sporran, etc. One of the other groomsmen collects medieval weaponry so we were properly armed.

Cut a dashing figure if I do say so myself. It was a lot of fun.

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**Author:** ![PoorWarblingOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4491bb/32.png) [@PoorWarblingOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorWarblingOne)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/46 "2007-04-11T00:03:22Z")

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Very sexy indeed. Count me in.

Now, where can I get me one of those men in kilts…? 😉

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/47 "2007-04-11T00:18:07Z")

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[QUOTE=PoorWarblingOne]  
Now, where can I get me one of those men in kilts…? 😉  
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[So](http://eurobiker.smugmug.com/gallery/1880507#94701322), how are you **doing**?

Actually, I’m spoken for…sorry to tease.

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/48 "2007-04-11T00:24:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
and dancing…  
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Not wanting to misrepresent myself, I deliberately excluded dancing.

Re: length of fabric - about 8" of fabric per pleat \* 32 pleats (one for each degree of masonry, coincidence?)= 21’4" of fabric for the back. 7 yards just in folds.  
And why hasn’t **badkittypriestess** stopped by to tell everyone how dashing I look? ☹

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**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/49 "2007-04-11T01:09:46Z")

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I see a number of the utilikilt style at contradances, where they are very practical and usually attractive. But a kilt does nothing good for the looks of a fat man.

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/50 "2007-04-11T01:17:35Z")

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Maybe I’ve yet to see a sexy man in a kilt (apologies to the Doper men in kilts who’ve posted here) but I don’t find them attractive at all. I like the idea of it, but in real life it just looks odd.

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**Author:** ![Cyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyn)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/51 "2007-04-11T01:24:33Z")

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The Bay Area Dopefest I went to a couple years back, a young man wore an all black kilt and looked very nice.  
What was his name?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/52 "2007-04-11T01:29:20Z")

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[Here’s](http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/fachverwirrt/709687709305_0_ALB.jpg) a pic of me at my wedding. So that would be pro-kilt.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/53 "2007-04-11T01:35:48Z")

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I married a man in a kilt (he was in the kilt). He wore a [Montrose](http://www.kinlochanderson-kilts.com/sw_kinloch-md-bb.html) doublet that I had sewn. I’ve also made a kilt. Yep, a gen-u-wine 9-yard beauty. I was a Scottish Country Dancer for quite a while - needless to say I’m quite fond of laddies in kilts.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/54 "2007-04-11T04:29:45Z")

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I’m very fond of kilts, but is has to be a properly handfolded, not sewn-pleat great kilt because sewn pleat kilts just look too much like skirts. The Utilikilts are pretty cool for a modern interpretation, I’m for 'em.

There was a fashion among the young men of our local SCA group who affected Scottish personas to wear a tiny bell hanging from a bit of ribbon tied to the end of their manly bits–the bell would hang to just below the hem of the kilt. It was very cute the way they’d jingle as they walked and quite a few of them were sporting the bells after a while–it all ended in tears one night as one of them stood up in one motion from a cross legged position on the ground and caught his bell under his instep as he stood… I won’t go so far as to say there was an audible “boioioioing!” noise but he did get quite the introspective look on his face for a while. Shortly thereafter, as the word got round, nary a jingle bell was to be heard from under a kilt. Fancy that! 😛

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**Author:** ![pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pretend_my_name_is_witty)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/55 "2007-04-11T10:17:35Z")

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Whenever anyone really wears one in public, they tend to wear them too low and it looks a bit wrong, but what do I know…

I’ve never been against kilts, I just used to think as an Englishman it’d be a bit silly to wear one. But now I’m part of a (ex) Highland regiment I’m issued one, and told to wear it! When we go out into town for corps related celebrations, sometimes we’ll all just wear them and a rugby top for the hell of it. There’s a definate double standard for being groped/exposed in for guys in kilts opposed to girls in skirts!

But anyway, kilts look good if you’ve got the legs for it, if you’re wearing them en masse and if you wear it properly.

Oh, and if you’re _actually_ Scottish (ie; live in Scotland, not just great-great-grandfather did) or have a really good excuse!

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/56 "2007-04-11T10:22:31Z")

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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]

There was a fashion among the young men of our local SCA group who affected Scottish personas to wear a tiny bell hanging from a bit of ribbon tied to the end of their manly bits–the bell would hang to just below the hem of the kilt.  
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No True Scotsman would do such an unbelievably stupid thing. 😛

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**Author:** ![goldenmean1975](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@goldenmean1975](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goldenmean1975)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/57 "2007-04-11T11:43:53Z")

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I very much love men in kilts! My alma mater does in fact have a world championship winning bagpipe team and our Scottish festival is coming up in two weeks. I can’t wait to gawk at all the men in kilts! Some of them will even have brass plates and animal heads over their junk. I feel that makes it ok to stare directly at their crotch area.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/58 "2007-04-11T12:24:42Z")

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[QUOTE=LunaV]  
Maybe I’ve yet to see a sexy man in a kilt (apologies to the Doper men in kilts who’ve posted here) but I don’t find them attractive at all. I like the idea of it, but in real life it just looks odd.  
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[How’s this move you?](http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain’t find \*that \*sexy, ye’re dead and dust inside! 😃

[No?](http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

[No?](http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I’ll be in mah bunk.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/59 "2007-04-11T12:48:32Z")

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[This](http://www.e-kilts.com/ekilts/images/items/main/ladies-mini-kilt.jpg) is a little more my speed.

But by all means carry on.

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-in-kilts-your-take/399512/60 "2007-04-11T13:06:10Z")

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Interestingly enough, my maiden name is Scottish and we do have a tartan. It’s a pretty attractive one too, so that is a plus. Unfortunately, the side of the family I got the name from is a united bunch of scumbags, to be polite, so my desire to sport the tartan is diminished by that.

I’m thinkin’ I’ll get my husband a kilt and see how he likes it. He has rather large legs (sigh) that are rather difficult to fit in pants and I think that he would find a kilt rather comfy. He did admit that if it increase the groping, he would be all for it. Although I must say, with a toddler roaming about, he wouldn’t be nearly as eager to go about all regimental as he may have been in the past.

_sigh_ there is an attractive womens skirt in my size, in my tartan on ebay right now. Alas, no cheapo utilikilts.

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