# MEN: Is this site representative of how you feel about women?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147 "2011-03-02T02:24:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/21 "2011-03-02T19:11:52Z")

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If you don’t want men to generalize women as in the quotes, why would you generalize men in the same way?

I say bullshit to anyone who says all men are the same. As evidence I have a wonderful, caring, sensitive, intelligent guy at home. My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/22 "2011-03-02T19:16:06Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I would advise any young generic male never to get married.

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> If you don’t want men to generalize women as in the quotes, why would you generalize men in the same way?
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> I say bullshit to anyone who says all men are the same. As evidence I have a wonderful, caring, sensitive, intelligent guy at home.

Well, duh. Clearly you went for a brand name male instead of the generic version.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/23 "2011-03-02T21:11:11Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I really wish the second quote wasn’t entirely accurate.

I wished that, too, but I was applying that quote to men.

:: shrug ::

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/24 "2011-03-02T21:12:02Z")

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They forgot the part about clubbing women over the head and dragging them back to your cave

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/25 "2011-03-02T21:17:33Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

(It’s not that I don’t agree with that, being married to the second son myself, but why do you say that?)

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/26 "2011-03-02T21:30:24Z")

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It’s not representative of me, and frankly, it’s a little offensive to be asked.

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/27 "2011-03-02T21:40:36Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

Heh. I think this is pretty good advice. If something is wrong in the family, it’s going to be the oldest son who takes bears the full brunt of it- especially if he has a younger brother he is trying to protect. If daddy is a drunk or mommy is overbearing, it’s the oldest son who is going to end up with the issues (not sure if this applies to daughters, too.) They are more likely to end up with too much freedom, or too much responsibility, or whatever.

Meanwhile, second sons have always functioned as part of a family, and I think their lives are usually just a bit more moderated. As a marriage partner I think they are more likely to be calm and secure, and more likely to work as a team.

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/28 "2011-03-02T21:43:45Z")

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Wow. That site is pathetic. No, I don’t feel that way about women.

Protip: If somebody blames all their dating problems on the opposite sex, stay away. They are screwed up.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/29 "2011-03-02T21:44:02Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> If you don’t want men to generalize women as in the quotes, why would you generalize men in the same way?
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> I say bullshit to anyone who says all men are the same. As evidence I have a wonderful, caring, sensitive, intelligent guy at home. My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

That would explain why my younger brother was way more successful with women than me. And he’s Dutch too, and I mention that because the double “aa” in your name suggests you are Dutch as well.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/30 "2011-03-02T21:49:31Z")

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I’d say it is how a small part of men feel all the time, due to their priorities.  
A larger percentage of males might feel that way in a certain mood, like right after a disappointing romantic experience. Or in a phase in their life.

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**Author:** ![snailboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@snailboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snailboy)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/31 "2011-03-02T21:56:03Z")

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I agree women are often pretty illogical. I even know some women who think that. I don’t really agree with the rest though, except maybe when I’ve just broken up with someone and am feeling misogynistic.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/32 "2011-03-02T22:00:10Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

I’m the oldest in my family. Any of you ladies who want a crack at my younger brother are welcome to try. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/33 "2011-03-02T22:01:54Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> If you don’t want men to generalize women as in the quotes, why would you generalize men in the same way?
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> I say bullshit to anyone who says all men are the same. As evidence I have a wonderful, caring, sensitive, intelligent guy at home. My first piece of advice is to date a second son, never the eldest.

> [@even\_sven](#):
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> Heh. I think this is pretty good advice. If something is wrong in the family, it’s going to be the oldest son who takes bears the full brunt of it- especially if he has a younger brother he is trying to protect…
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> Meanwhile, second sons have always functioned as part of a family, and I think their lives are usually just a bit more moderated. As a marriage partner I think they are more likely to be calm and secure, and more likely to work as a team.

Heh. My (older) brother got his shit together at a much younger age than I did (and honestly still has his shit together to a greater degree).

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**Author:** ![loshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@loshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loshan)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/34 "2011-03-02T22:04:34Z")

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> It’s not representative of me, and frankly, it’s a little offensive to be asked.

Sorry, I meant no offense. I grew up in a household of all women/girls and to this day I think I am a little stunted in male/female relations because of it.  
A few weeks ago I overheard some young (25ish) males talking about people of the female persuasion in very derogatory terms.  
Then I see this site.  
Put together, these things got me wondering about the Secret Lives of Men™:D

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/35 "2011-03-02T22:07:34Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Heh. My (older) brother got his shit together at a much younger age than I did (and honestly still has his shit together to a greater degree).

Now that I think about it, I think I’ve only ever dated first or only sons. I wonder what that means. Obviously I don’t really believe you should make all your dating decisions based on birth order, but I can think of three guys I’ve dates who were headcases with emotional problems who had fairly normal younger brothers.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/36 "2011-03-02T23:00:40Z")

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> [@Waxwinged](#):
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> (It’s not that I don’t agree with that, being married to the second son myself, but why do you say that?)

Eldest sons usually get more attention. In some cultures he as the heir gets much better treatment than the other children. In some cases they are even only children and the focus of the family for awhile. Younger sons are more likely to have had to share. I agree never date an eldest son.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/37 "2011-03-02T23:13:18Z")

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I’m an older son and a basket case. My younger brother is way more put together, but he’s already taken.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/38 "2011-03-02T23:28:27Z")

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> [@snailboy](#):
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> I agree women are often pretty illogical. I even know some women who think that. I don’t really agree with the rest though, except maybe when I’ve just broken up with someone and am feeling misogynistic.

If you think women are illogical, try dating men for a while.

It reminds me of a bit that Sam Kinnison used to do. He’d say something like “Women come up to me and ask, ‘Why do you always put down women? Men can be jerks too, so why do you only complain about women?’ And the answer to that is 'cause a man never broke my FUCKING HEART. A man never took my stereo. A man never crashed my fucking car! I want my records back!!! AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH!”

So that’s why you hear women bitch and whine about men, and men bitch and whine about women. And this is why opposite sex relationships never work.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/39 "2011-03-02T23:31:36Z")

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Ewww…excuse me, I need to take a shower.

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-is-this-site-representative-of-how-you-feel-about-women/573147/40 "2011-03-02T23:39:46Z")

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Yes, all men think and act by what logic dictates.

That’s why the world must continue to be dominated by them.

Logic rules all. Men know this. Submit and be happy females.

Sheesh.

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