# Men - orgasm without ejaculation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 6, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347 "2001-02-06T14:15:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/21 "2001-02-07T19:00:34Z")

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I came across [this site](http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/031698-b.htm) a while ago.

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**Author:** ![JoeyBlades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JoeyBlades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeyBlades)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/22 "2001-02-07T20:24:06Z")

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I think the question has probably been adequately answered, however I just wanted to add a few comments.  
Miguelon wrote:

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> This supposedly has many benefits which include increased sexual stamina (you don’t lose your erection after you come)…

The key to post orgasmic erection is continued stimulation. Pure and simple. Perhaps seminal retention encourages folks to experiment more with continued stimulation, since there’s no cleanup to be distracted by. However I assure you that ejaculation has nothing to do with erection.

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> … a much more intense, spiritual, internal type of orgasm

Well, I can’t say anything about the spiritual-ness of my orgasms and I don’t have a clue what is meant by an “internal type of orgasm” or why that might be a good thing. However, I can say that I use Kegels to prolong my orgasm which does, indeed, intensify them. It also has the ‘interesting’ side effect of ‘improving’ the projectile qualities of my ejaculate… Not that I’m trying to set any distance records or anything…  
One more point I wanted to make about orgasm sans ejaculate… after three or four orgasms in one session, the orgasms can continue, but the ejaculate doesn’t.  
Edward The Head wrote:

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> they say that you can have an orgasam W/O any sperm leaving the testicles.

I highly doubt that… I have no doubt that ‘they’ say it, mind you… Bear in mind that semen is composed of a number of components secreted by a number of different glands. It’s unlikely that Kegels could shut off the valves to all of these glands. It’s much more likely that the semen is simply redirected from it’s normal path.  
don willard wrote:

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> I’m surprised nobody has come along to say that your life force is NOT in se\*\*n.

Well, what is ‘life force’, anyway. I wouldn’t bother to argue that semen doesn’t contain your ‘life force’ when the whole concept of ‘life force’ is mystical and unscientific…

BTW, Don, I think it’s kinda cute that you obscured the word ‘semen’… [wink]

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/23 "2001-02-07T20:39:00Z")

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[JDT]

Of course, you realize, if your male organ has been medically mutilated, you’re not in fact having a real orgasm anyway. You’re experiencing a secondary rush of nerve-ending overstimulation that is easily mistaken for climax. The emission of fluid is not a true ejaculation in this case; rather, it is a very fast release of extraneous fluids built up behind the anterior prostate after the nerve-ending rush causes the muscle to suddenly relax.

Only uncut men can experience a true orgasm and a true ejaculation, and, further, can control the spurt-free orgasm at will. The technique, besides enhancing pleasure, also raises IQ, reverses premature balding, and straightens teeth. In addition, after several withheld ejaculations, the ultimately released emission will emerge with such force that it blows your sexual partner right off your rod and against the opposite wall. Women really like this. Trust me.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/24 "2001-02-07T21:31:23Z")

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Barbitu8 asserted that Flomax does not shut off ejaculation. It does indeed, but not for most of its users. If you read the “fear sheet” that comes with the drug, you’ll find inability to ejaculate on the list of possible side effects. A small percentage of users, including me, experience that effect. I have been able to get around that problem by changing the time-of-day I take the dose. I now take it just before going to sleep, and I’m able to ejaculate just fine any time between waking up and the next night’s sleep.

–Nott

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**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/25 "2001-02-07T23:00:46Z")

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AskNott, my urologist told me to take it half an hour before I go to bed.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/26 "2001-02-07T23:53:14Z")

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I’ll reply to barbitu8’s post, but first I should clarify something else. In an earlier post in this thread, I wrote that I had learned to forestall ejaculation by exercise. I should explain, that was before I began taking Flomax.

Now, as to the dose timing; barbitu8 wrote that his urologist specified he take his dose “half an hour before I go to bed.” Mine said, “half an hour after breakfast,” which turned out to be a bad idea. Not only did it give me the side effect, but it made me drowsy during the day.

–Nott

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**Author:** ![ThisYearsGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@ThisYearsGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisYearsGirl)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2001, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/27 "2001-03-31T20:35:47Z")

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So sorry to revive a thread that’s been dead for two and a half months, but I have two questions related to this exact topic.  
For the men who’ve said they’ve had a dry orgasm without trying–how common is this? And would being drunk (or on any other drugs, really) have any influence on something like this happening?

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**Author:** ![DaveRaver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daveraver/32/1078_2.png) [@DaveRaver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveRaver)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2001, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/28 "2001-04-01T01:54:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miguelon \*  
> **(many eastern philosophies assert that the essence of a man’s vital or life force is in his sperm and that repeated ejaculation over time drains you of this energy thus speeding up the aging process.)**

Actually, I recently heard on my local news radio that a study was done which showed that people who have frequent sex tend to look ten years younger that they actually are.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2001, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/29 "2001-04-01T02:20:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DaveRaver \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Miguelon \*  
> > **(many eastern philosophies assert that the essence of a man’s vital or life force is in his sperm and that repeated ejaculation over time drains you of this energy thus speeding up the aging process.)**
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> Actually, I recently heard on my local news radio that a study was done which showed that people who have frequent sex tend to look ten years younger that they actually are. \*\*

Or was it that people who look 10 years younger than they really are just get more frequent sex?

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**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neil)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2001, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/30 "2001-04-01T03:22:18Z")

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About these Kegel exercises that JoeyBlades and other mention doing. . . what do you do? Or where online could one look up information on how to do them?

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**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2001, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/31 "2001-04-01T03:43:24Z")

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I have done it on several occasions. But orgasm without ejaculation does not feel as good as orgasm with ejaculation, feels like something is missing. Part of that climatic feeling is the mental knowledge that you’re squirting your little men out to do battle and into your partner’s body.

You can climax a second time because the jus is still in you, but the effort to orgasm without ejaculation leaves you so drained (no pun intended) that the 2nd time is not worth the effort, you feel like you’re just going through the motions.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2001, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/32 "2001-04-03T05:52:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ThisYearsGirl \*  
> \*\*For the men who’ve said they’ve had a dry orgasm without trying–how common is this? And would being drunk (or on any other drugs, really) have any influence on something like this happening? \*\*

It’s only happened once to me. I believe I was sober at the time, but if I had some drinks, it certainly wasn’t the reason.

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2001, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/33 "2001-04-04T00:59:33Z")

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A man can orgasm without ejaculation easily. When you are about to come grab the base of the penis & squeeze the pee tube really tight. Result? No semen. Spiffy.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2001, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/34 "2001-04-04T05:56:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Major Feelgud \*  
> \*\*You can climax a second time because the jus is still in you, but the effort to orgasm without ejaculation leaves you so drained (no pun intended) that the 2nd time is not worth the effort, you feel like you’re just going through the motions. \*\*

Ah, but assuming you’re doing it with somebody, those can be some damn good motions… 😉

**Neil** , I believe Maxim had a thing on that a month or two ago. Basically isolate the PC muscle by stopping the flow of pee (that’s the one) and just flex it repeatedly. I think they said something like 10 sets of 10 twice a day for a grand total of 200 contractions. It sounds kind of silly, but it’s worth it, don’t you think? 😉

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**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2001, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/35 "2001-04-04T06:29:00Z")

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Dry orgasms? Sure, had plenty.

Of course, they were nearly all before puberty really hit, so.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-orgasm-without-ejaculation/53347/36 "2001-04-06T00:46:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Neil \*  
> \*\*About these Kegel exercises that JoeyBlades and other mention doing. . . what do you do? Or where online could one look up information on how to do them?
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Pretty simple, Neil. Start by interrupting the flow while you’re urinating. You may want to do this while seated, because it might interfere with your aim. Once you do that a few times, you’ll know which muscle to twitch. After that, you can do it any time. You’ll notice your penis bobs up a bit when you tighten the muscle, and you can amuse yourself by using the muscle to bounce your erection. Work your way up to groups of 30 contractions, then go for longer duration in the contractions.

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