Having not paid any attention to the arguments for or against this poll, and also having answered the poll before I even knew there was controversy about it, I will overlook all that.
I chose 60%. I class beauty as more than just physical, so someone who would never be a supermodel can have an incredible smile, a delightful sense of humour, a quirky sense of dress, or an enthusiastic charisma, which easily pushes the numbers up to over half. I also try to ignore age, that even thoug someone may be a bit past their prime, if you can still perceive what that prime was in them even now, then that still counts.
My read of this poll is that it says more about how men define ‘beautiful’ than it says about how visually appealing women are. This impression is bolstered by the fact that men repeatedly have said that while few are beautiful, many are attractive.
The problem isn’t that most women don’t meet this mythical, poorly-defined ideal. It’s that people keep telling them they have to.
RIght, and it’s not the general population of men who tell them they need to meet that ideal - from my limited experience, men don’t value whether a woman is beautiful. We want attractive, which is different. Maybe the fashion and cosmetics industry pushes it, but also it seems to me that women notice beauty in a woman more than men do.
I really don’t think we have good data on which populations push what - other than the bit about how advertisers aggressively push women to believe that only unattainable perfection is acceptable.
written by The Office on Women’s Health ,Danielle Johnson, M.D,Cassidy Gutner, Ph.D.,Kamryn T. Eddy, Ph.D., and Jennifer J. Thomas, Ph.D. ,Alicia Kaplan, M.D. and others- is "mansplaining ". :dubious:
riiiight.
So cites from experts on womens healths, written by women, are "mansplaining " if a male posts them. Sure.
Women in this very thread have said that the rankings by the male eye aren’t helping improve self esteem and negative body images. That we know women have an issue with this, thanks for the cites and all, but this method doesn’t help. Men who then say yes, it does, let me explain how this doesn’t hurt you are…
Not helping.
That’s a piss-poor paraphrase of the critique you’ve received. Have you considered listening to what women are telling you, and trying to understand it without being defensive?