# Men who abuse women (or anyone) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 15, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307 "2011-12-15T16:11:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Accident](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Mr.Accident](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Accident)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/1 "2011-12-15T16:11:28Z")
To those men out there who abuse their spouse/lover/girlfriend/etc, may you all rot in the lowest levels of Hell. In fact, I hope they have a special section just for you wastes of genetic material. A section where the only reading material is Ayan Rand, the only television being played is endless loops of Spongebob laughing, the only music is the sound track to Spice World, the only food is month old leftovers from a cash strapped prison buffet, and the only thing to drink is non-alcoholic ginger beer. May your dicks rot enough to be functional only as a way to void urine, may your testicles swell to the size of coconuts, and may a thousand roaches crawl into your ears when you sleep. I hope the lot of you one day find yourself in the position of being a victim, so that you know the hell you’ve put others through, and I hope that somehow you all get to see and understand exactly what it is you have done to your own victims. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/2 "2011-12-15T16:36:55Z")
At least they’re not bankers. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/3 "2011-12-15T16:39:36Z")
I notice you’re letting child molesters off the hook. What do you have against kids? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/4 "2011-12-15T16:40:08Z")
It might make me _persona non grata_ around here, but what the hell. I would like to support your bold and iconoclastic stand. I too raise up my voice against the winds of political popularity and declare, loudly and proudly, that i am opposed to domestic violence. Let them threaten to fire me from my job, or drag me away for questioning, or make me a social pariah. I will stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in your lonely crusade. Was there anything in particular that led to this rant, or was this just how you happened to be feeling this morning? ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/5 "2011-12-15T16:40:23Z")
I’ve often said that grown-ups can take care of themselves, children and animals can’t. If someone wants to take a shot at me, fine, I’m an adult and can defend myself. Anybody who maliciously abuses a child or animal deserves everything the OP says and worse. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/6 "2011-12-15T16:46:48Z")
bah. Chicks need to learn when to shut the fuck up and do as they’re told. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/7 "2011-12-15T16:48:29Z")
I don’t like anyone abusing anyone. Why be gender specific? ---
**Author:** ![Bloodless\_Turnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@Bloodless\_Turnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bloodless_Turnip)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/8 "2011-12-15T16:49:07Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I notice you’re letting child molesters off the hook. What do you have against kids? Title says “(or anyone)”. I take that to mean…anyone including children. ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/9 "2011-12-15T16:50:31Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Was there anything in particular that led to this rant, or was this just how you happened to be feeling this morning? Qin LeMay left his computer open and the OP stole his half-finished post. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/10 "2011-12-15T16:51:01Z")
I’m guessing that the OP just learned that someone he cares for was the victim of abuse. In all seriousness, my sympathies. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/11 "2011-12-15T16:53:29Z")
With respect to just domestic violence between adult men and women it is often very difficult to determine true statistics. While it is generally assumed the violence is predominantly men attacking women, this may be a false statistic. When cultural and “macho” issues are addressed, actual domestic violence is about a 50-50 split as to the instigator of the violence (USA only). In other words, women are about as equally the physical aggressors as men. That said, I fully support **Mr. Accident’s** post, **mhendo’s** addendum and **Soylent Juicy’s** excellent view. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/12 "2011-12-15T16:56:04Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It might make me _persona non grata_ around here, but what the hell. > > I would like to support your bold and iconoclastic stand. I too raise up my voice against the winds of political popularity and declare, loudly and proudly, that i am opposed to domestic violence. _pulls up a chair_ This should end well… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/13 "2011-12-15T16:56:54Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > With respect to just domestic violence between adult men and women it is often very difficult to determine true statistics. While it is generally assumed the violence is predominantly men attacking women, this may be a false statistic. When cultural and “macho” issues are addressed, actual domestic violence is about a 50-50 split as to the instigator of the violence (USA only). In other words, women are about as equally the physical aggressors as men. > > That said, I fully support **Mr. Accident’s** post, **mhendo’s** addendum and **Soylent Juicy’s** excellent view. This. I think we concentrate too much on protecting women, rather than individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Bloodless\_Turnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@Bloodless\_Turnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bloodless_Turnip)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/14 "2011-12-15T16:57:04Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > With respect to just domestic violence between adult men and women it is often very difficult to determine true statistics. While it is generally assumed the violence is predominantly men attacking women, this may be a false statistic. When cultural and “macho” issues are addressed, actual domestic violence is about a 50-50 split as to the instigator of the violence (USA only). In other words, women are about as equally the physical aggressors as men. > > That said, I fully support **Mr. Accident’s** post, **mhendo’s** addendum and **Soylent Juicy’s** excellent view. In every single study I have read and every single compilation of abuse cases I have studied, men are more often the abuser. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/15 "2011-12-15T17:01:23Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > I’ve often said that grown-ups can take care of themselves, children and animals can’t. Obviously, you’ve never tried to punch a lion. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/16 "2011-12-15T17:02:40Z")
> [@Bloodless\_Turnip](#): > > In every single study I have read and every single compilation of abuse cases I have studied, men are more often the abuser. How 'bout we just Pit abusers. Since this seems to be a generic pitting why single out the men? ---
**Author:** ![Bloodless\_Turnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@Bloodless\_Turnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bloodless_Turnip)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/17 "2011-12-15T17:08:44Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > How 'bout we just Pit abusers. Since this seems to be a generic pitting why single out the men? Why not ask the OP, who seems to want to single out men. Or, you could start a new pit thread to pit abusers in general. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/18 "2011-12-15T17:17:45Z")
I’m having a little trouble with the basic concept of the OP. Okay, I don’t like people who want to hurt other people. But I don’t see how hoping they get tortured in hell advances the cause. Wouldn’t that just add me to the list of people who want to hurt other people? ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/19 "2011-12-15T17:22:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It might make me _persona non grata_ around here, but what the hell. > > I would like to support your bold and iconoclastic stand. I too raise up my voice against the winds of political popularity and declare, loudly and proudly, that i am opposed to domestic violence. Let them threaten to fire me from my job, or drag me away for questioning, or make me a social pariah. I will stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in your lonely crusade. > > Was there anything in particular that led to this rant, or was this just how you happened to be feeling this morning? I’m not sure I am willing to go to the lengths you are on such a controversial issue. Can I just buy a ribbon or a magnet for my car to show support? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307/20 "2011-12-15T17:37:35Z")
> [@Bloodless\_Turnip](#): > > Why not ask the OP, who seems to want to single out men. Or, you could start a new pit thread to pit abusers in general. Very well. Carry on participating in the ‘Me no like men, men bad’ screed. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-who-abuse-women-or-anyone/606307.md?page=2)