# Men! Yuck! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 19, 2000, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315 "2000-12-19T07:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/61 "2000-12-22T03:42:53Z")
It is an important skill to be able to get along without having a significant other. That enables you to choose a mate because you want to, as opposed to you simply being desperate for the first warm body you can latch onto. ---
**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/62 "2000-12-22T04:54:30Z")
As my idols the Osmonds once sang: "One bad apple don’t spoil the whole bunch girl. Hello, Kitty (Haw). It’s me again. Your original breakup thread really connected with me, since I had been through something very much like what you described. And so I related that and hoped it helped in some way. Now, though, I’m concerned. I know that men are scum and all that, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to generalize like that. It’s my opinion that it’s a good idea to remember that people come in all flavors, shapes, sizes, and temperments. Good and bad, such as they are. The good ones are out there; sometimes you just need a better net to catch them. The preceding nonsense sponsored by nobody. ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/63 "2000-12-22T05:16:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fairy Princess Kitty \* > \*\*I was idealistic, yeah so maybe I did have my ups and downs but I was a nice person overall, I thought that perhaps there was a chance that maybe someone out there was nice and gave a damn about other people. Preferably a male someone and that I would meet this someone. For a while I thought I had found this person, he seemed like a really nice guy, you all know my story right? If not there’s a couple threads of mine about it. So now I agree with all you cynical people out there. This someone after dumping me the first time and getting a second chance tells me that he “needs space” and wants to “try something new” and “see other people.” But he says that he’s really sorry about hurting me and he does love me… really he does. Do any of you guys out there have anything that would make me not give up hope in the male half of the human race? Make me think that not all of you are horny bastards that were more in love with what they could do with a girl than the girl herself. Or how about it darling? How about the one guy that started all of this do you have anything to say? With guys that’ll flirt with just about every girl they see, that happen to like my best friend, that ae arrogant pompous asses, how am I supposed to not lose hope that there’s still a decent one out there? > Mods, I’m sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but I just wanted to rant and share and see if any guy could stick up for himself, that’s three of the forums right there so I just guessed. > > Kitty \*\* Some guys are not ready for a commitment. Don’t get me wrong, you deserve to never give him another chance. I am one of those people that have trouble getting past those first four months. The euphoria of the exciting, passionate, sensual ectasy is a heady feeling. But then you both have to relax. I also like to flirt with just about every girl I see. It doesn’t mean I would like to poke each one, it is just a good conversational icebreaker when it comes to girls. I am not an arrogant, pompous ass, althought I have impersonated one before, and usually regreted it. I would like to hit a higher level, I just haven’t found or convinced the right girl. I have also loved a girl dearly. Had sex with her a dozen or so times. Been her best friend (still am), through boy friends and have been the guy on the side when I want to be the main man. I don’t know what this guy is like, but you need a good dose of girls night out. Get rowdy, watch cute guys while you are sipping booze at a hip bar, wink at one if you feel like it. ---
**Author:** ![slackergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@slackergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slackergirl)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/64 "2000-12-22T05:28:28Z")
Thanks FPK and lurker. And Snooooopy, you’re right. Desperation is never a pretty thing. It is nice to have the emotional freedom to choose carefully. ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/65 "2000-12-22T07:07:03Z")
FPK… There is nothing at all wrong with being idealistic, you seem to have set some reasonable standards and have clear expectations of the man you want to be with. Don’t ever lower your standards or “settle” for someone less than you really deserve. You said, " I get to see him flirt with anything that walks." He is a moral parapalegic. You don’t need this at all. When you see him next hold your head up, look straight ahead and just stroll on by this poor exuse for a man. He is beneath you and is not worthy of your attention or affections. ---
**Author:** ![Adventurious82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e495f1/32.png) [@Adventurious82](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Adventurious82)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/66 "2000-12-22T09:51:09Z")
Oh, hell. Most guys are pigs! Just work construction for a year like I did and you’ll find that out real fast! The more mach a guy is, the more women he gets and the worse he treats them. Most men are guided by their pricks anyhow, which is natural, but some take it to the extreme. I’ve known guys who cheat on their wives and think it’s great, but go ballistic when they discover she did the same! Some guys seem to think having babies with assorted women that they don’t marry nor help pay for the kid is part of being a man. Other refuse to use condoms no matter what diseases are floating around, firmly declaring that no real man wraps his wiener! I’ve had to whack a few huge rednecks upside their heads with a board when I caught them kicking the crap out of their tiny wives because she didn’t have supper ready when he wobbled in after spending a few hours at the topless bar, and a couple took a few more whacks later on because they just didn’t learn the first time! I know these young guys whose whole world focuses on snatch, beer and drugs, not necessarily in that order, and who screw as many girls as they can sucker. I’ve met guys who go after their wives sisters, cousins and even mothers with no guilt what so ever! Some have a whole covey of girls parading into their homes, cleaning, cooking, making them things, treating them nice, giving him more sex than you can dream of, yet they go out and cheat on them! Yep. Guys can be real pigs, which is probably why they tend to kill each other off faster than women do. You want a cool guy? Avoid the real good looking ones, ‘cause they’ll have far too many chicks lined up ready to bed them and will expect preferential treatment. Avoid the big macho men, because they’re steeped in ‘manly ways’ and ‘wimmin’ come second to everything else, especially sports and huntin.’ Find some average guy, looks OK, hasn’t been swamped with dates, and who usually has traits and stuff that will astonish you when you get him to open up. If he has long, dirty hair, a scraggly beard, rides a hawg and dresses in leather, well the hawg comes first, his biker buddies second and then you, along with the occasional punch in the mouth when you piss him off. Avoid ‘pretty boys’. They tend to walk both sides of the fence, if you know what I mean. (You’ll find out if he prefers you butt up rather than butt down.) Avoid anyone with a shaven head, who talks like he barely graduated 6th grade at 21, weighs in at 400 pounds, and dresses in baggy clothing and hangs out ‘wit his homiez.’ Avoid any guy with a skin head. When the hair goes, so does common sense. If he can’t talk to you in normal language without peppering it with street talk, street gestures, sounds black when he isn’t, and talks about honor, being disrespected, and wears bandannas a lot, avoid him. That ought to help some. Oh, yeah. If he wants to get into politics, dump him fast because nothing he tells you will ever be the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2000, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/67 "2000-12-22T13:18:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Adventurious82 \* > \*\*Oh, hell. Most guys are pigs! > Yep. Guys can be real pigs, which is probably why they tend to kill each other off faster than women do. You want a cool guy? Avoid the real good looking ones, ‘cause they’ll have far too many chicks lined up ready to bed them and will expect preferential treatment. Avoid the big macho men, because they’re steeped in ‘manly ways’ and ‘wimmin’ come second to everything else, especially sports and huntin.’ Find some average guy, looks OK, hasn’t been swamped with dates, and who usually has traits and stuff that will astonish you when you get him to open up. > > Avoid ‘pretty boys’. They tend to walk both sides of the fence, if you know what I mean. (You’ll find out if he prefers you butt up rather than butt down.) Avoid any guy with a skin head. When the hair goes, so does common sense. > \*\* Oh, where to begin to take issue with this? Let’s try this: > [@](#): > > Avoid the real good looking ones, 'cause they’ll have far too many chicks lined up ready to bed them and will expect preferential treatment. It’s been said. Women don’t like the ‘good’ guys. They like the hunky bad boys who treat them like dirt. Hence, the “'chicks lined up ready to bed them”. > [@](#): > > Avoid ‘pretty boys’. They tend to walk both sides of the fence, if you know what I mean. Are they different from the “real good looking ones”? > [@](#): > > Avoid any guy with a skin head. When the hair goes, so does common sense I’m bald, and an intellegent, caring, moral human being. Too bad that doesn’t cut the mustard with a lot of women. My roommate uses women like kleenex, and they are lining up at the door(literally). ---
**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2000, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/68 "2000-12-23T06:05:06Z")
Spooje, intentionally or not, you’ve proven my point, which was that generalizing is often pointless because no matter how broad it’s always too narrow. Yes it does make sense; read over the last half dozen or so posts if you don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2000, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/69 "2000-12-23T15:39:23Z")
" What are the odds of me finding a decent guy I can fall in love with that won’t bail the second things get emotional?" You can’t order a guy like a hamburger: “Waiter, I want a guy I can fall in love with & that won’t bail the second things get emotional…” You spend your time with the guy & take your chances. BTW, did you say two guys? Well, women suck just as much as men as I have to meet about 20 women before finding one that can relate properly. As I said before, I just met nbr 18 & she is just about right. Reminds me. At 18 a woman thinks, ‘which guys are jerks & which ones are not.’ At 30+ it’s 'how much jerk is there in a guy."? ---
**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2000, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/70 "2000-12-24T08:03:39Z")
I’m gonna say this again because I feel that there are some here among us on the SDMB who may benefit from repetetion: _People are not all the same._ Be they guys, girls, men, women, whatever, each and every person is different. Some of you may consider that to be common knowledge or perhaps common sense. If that includes you, then I’m not talking to you. For everybody else, hang in there! You’re not alone on a ledge, even if you feel like you are. ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2000, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/71 "2000-12-30T02:48:25Z")
Forget the (ex)boyfriend **Kitty** , he’s obviously unappreciative. **DocDaneeka** and **AHunter3** both said as good or better than I ever could. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2001, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/72 "2001-06-11T09:25:26Z")
This thread was pretty meaningful for me, so I’d like to save it from the pruning. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2001, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/73 "2001-06-11T11:37:00Z")
It wouldn’t have been pruned, only threads with the last post before 1/1/2000. ---
**Author:** ![Eo\_Echo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ebca7d/32.png) [@Eo\_Echo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eo_Echo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2001, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/74 "2001-06-11T12:23:43Z")
This thread is meaningful to me, too. I ust read through it and discovered that I actually said something that made sense. Will wonders ever cease? ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2001, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315/75 "2001-06-11T14:02:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Lao \* > \*\*It wouldn’t have been pruned, only threads with the last post before 1/1/2000. \*\* Oh … yeah, I guess you’re right. Good thread, in any case, and certainly deserving of another day in the sun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/men-yuck/46315.md?page=3)