# Men's Rights Movement may have a big future. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049 "2013-04-07T01:15:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/181 "2013-04-10T17:32:31Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I have no resentment toward women. Could you please tell me what is your profession or may I take a guess? Inquiring about your sex life (or lack of same) is irrelevant. I _would_ like to know what specific event or events turned your attention toward Men’s Rights… ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/182 "2013-04-10T17:37:53Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Inquiring about your sex life (or lack of same) is irrelevant. Thank you very much. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > I _would_ like to know what specific event or events turned your attention toward Men’s Rights… My friend was very severly abused by his mother, but I was never abused. Is that relevant? That was long before my interest appeared. Strange as it is I had and have very much free time. Thus I read hundreds of books and got curious about gender issues. I read some feminist and MRA books and found the latter to be more real. 90% of my knowledge about life comes from what I have read. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/183 "2013-04-10T17:42:11Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > In any case, expressing ideas which bring the hostility of masses is scary. Knowing that at least a sizable minority shares my ideas is comforting. > > I guess I should not have raised the issue on this board. What _else_ are you a victim of? ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/184 "2013-04-10T17:44:09Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > What _else_ are you a victim of? I am not a victim – it is just hard to stand alone, thus I should not have brought these issues to a liberal board. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/185 "2013-04-10T17:49:51Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I am not a victim – it is just hard to stand alone, thus I should not have brought these issues to a liberal board. If you needed an echo you could have posted to the numerous MRA blogs out there. If your convictions and beliefs don’t hold up against scrutiny it might be time to reevaluate your stance. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/186 "2013-04-10T17:51:15Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I am not a victim – it is just hard to stand alone Say what now?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/187 "2013-04-10T17:54:19Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > If you needed an echo you could have posted to the numerous MRA blogs out there. If your convictions and beliefs don’t hold up against scrutiny it might be time to reevaluate your stance. What’s the point in preaching to the converted? My beliefs hold under scrutiny – of which there is a lot. But on this liberal board I got just lots of ad homenim attacks which drain my mental energy. Thus posting it here was my mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/188 "2013-04-10T17:55:22Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > So, what’s your main occupation? He is a “Professional Bitch At People Who Shouldn’t Park In Handicapped Parking Spaces But Do Anyway And Then Coming Here To Bitch About It-er”. I hear it pays good money and I’m looking into getting into the industry as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/189 "2013-04-10T17:57:48Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > He is a “Professional Bitch At People Who Shouldn’t Park In Handicapped Parking Spaces But Do Anyway And Then Coming Here To Bitch About It-er”. > > I hear it pays good money and I’m looking into getting into the industry as well. Good one dude. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/190 "2013-04-10T17:58:10Z")
Maybe you don’t understand what ad hominem attacks are - you’re getting attacked because you keep saying patently false shit like women who murdered their husbands were heroes to millions of feminists and other lies that try to paint feminists as misandrists trying to silence men. The fact that you can’t see how this makes you look sexist is just further fuel for this “liberal board”. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/191 "2013-04-10T18:00:08Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > What’s the point in preaching to the converted? My beliefs hold under scrutiny – of which there is a lot. > > But on this liberal board I got just lots of ad homenim attacks which drain my mental energy. Thus posting it here was my mistake. Posting in multicolor woo is mistake number two. I’m outa this here chat. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/192 "2013-04-10T18:08:16Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > What’s the point in preaching to the converted? My beliefs hold under scrutiny – of which there is a lot. Beats preaching to the curious and logical who are likely to vet your cites, do a little research on men’s rights issues on their own, and who have already heard this rap numerous times on this very cite by transparent posters exactly like yourself who refer to the same stats and smokescreens. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/193 "2013-04-10T18:18:47Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > …My friend was very severly abused by his mother, but I was never abused. Is that relevant? That was long before my interest appeared. > > Strange as it is I had and have very much free time. Thus I read hundreds of books and got curious about gender issues. I read some feminist and MRA books and found the latter to be more real. > > 90% of my knowledge about life comes from what I have read. Most of us are against child abuse. Apparently it would be just as rude to inquire about your profession (or job, or whatever) as it would to ask about your sex life. But you really need to get out more and talk to real human beings. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/194 "2013-04-10T18:23:01Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > What’s the point in preaching to the converted? My beliefs hold under scrutiny – of which there is a lot. > > But on this liberal board I got just lots of ad homenim attacks which drain my mental energy. Thus posting it here was my mistake. Are the red words in your posts the parts that Jesus said? ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/195 "2013-04-10T18:24:13Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > Beats preaching to the curious and logical who are likely to vet your cites, do a little research on men’s rights issues on their own, and who have already heard this rap numerous times on this very cite by transparent posters exactly like yourself who refer to the same stats and smokescreens. I guess it’s unwise for me to continue this thread. But according to some feminist research, > [@](#): > > **American Men’s and Women’s Beliefs about Gender Discrimination: For Men, It’s Not Quite a ZeroSum Game** > > Jennifer K. Bosson, Joseph A. Vandello, Kenneth S. Michniewicz, Joshua Guy Lenes “25.4% of conservative men reported that men today face more discrimination than women” “a small majority (52.4%) of conservative men believe that men’s gender discrimination experiences today are greater than or equal to women’s” Thus I am not alone and it is sort of comforting… ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/196 "2013-04-10T18:28:25Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Apparently it would be just as rude to inquire about your profession (or job, or whatever) as it would to ask about your sex life. Unpaid intern – while I am talking here my computer is woking and every 5 minutes I take a minute to update a mathematical report. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/197 "2013-04-10T18:37:27Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I guess it’s unwise for me to continue this thread. But according to some feminist research, > > “25.4% of conservative men reported that men today face more discrimination than women” > > “a small majority (52.4%) of conservative men believe that men’s gender discrimination experiences today are greater than or equal to women’s” > > Thus I am not alone and it is sort of comforting… My money is on this group also thinking Christians are oppressed in society. Color me unsurprised. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/198 "2013-04-10T18:40:38Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > No one is forcing you to join a movement. If this conversation has gotten at least one lurker interested in the issue then my effort was not wasted. Messiah complex? Or just failed to do a search? We’ve discussed this at length for several years here. The Men’s Rights Movement isn’t novel, but the legitimate issues such as custody and financial support are often (usually?) eclipsed by the rampant anger at women who won’t “make the first move” who “withhold sex” and who “expect to maintain control over their reproductive rights” (those bitches). > [@CCitizen](#): > > In any case, expressing ideas which bring the hostility of masses is scary. Knowing that at least a sizable minority shares my ideas is comforting. > > I guess I should not have raised the issue on this board. Again with the messiah/victim thing. > [@CCitizen](#): > > What’s the point in preaching to the converted? My beliefs hold under scrutiny – of which there is a lot. > > But on this liberal board I got just lots of ad homenim attacks which drain my mental energy. Thus posting it here was my mistake. Sigh. > [@CCitizen](#): > > I guess it’s unwise for me to continue this thread. But according to some feminist research, > > “25.4% of conservative men reported that men today face more discrimination than women” > > “a small majority (52.4%) of conservative men believe that men’s gender discrimination experiences today are greater than or equal to women’s” > > Thus I am not alone and it is sort of comforting… Alone in what? In what way are you being discriminated against? Having custody issues? Child support complaints? In what way are you suffering here? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/199 "2013-04-10T18:51:17Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > I guess it’s unwise for me to continue this thread. But according to some feminist research, > > “25.4% of conservative men reported that men today face more discrimination than women” > > “a small majority (52.4%) of conservative men believe that men’s gender discrimination experiences today are greater than or equal to women’s” > > Thus I am not alone and it is sort of comforting… Yes, you’re most likely part of a group that thinks Obama’s the Antichrist and white Christian males in America are oppressed. Kudos at “not being alone”. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/200 "2013-04-10T18:52:14Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > Alone in what? In what way are you being discriminated against? Having custody issues? Child support complaints? In what way are you suffering here? Fortunately, I have not experienced any of life’s misfortunes… Fortunately, my knowledge about life comes from reading… I am not alone in holding very unpopular opinions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049.md?page=11)