# Men's Rights Movement may have a big future. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049 "2013-04-07T01:15:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/321 "2013-04-20T14:48:20Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Boo hoo, my son’s a rapist! > > Seriously though, a woman said she was raped, there was a tribunal at the school, and then he was found innocent. I’m outraged… why, exactly? Frankly, she does nothing in this article to show her son’s innocence; lawyer mommy pulled some tricks and got her son out of trouble. What does this have to do with _anything_? Most accusations of rape are from women against men, and after reading this part: \*In fact, Title IX, that so-called guarantor of equality between the sexes on college campuses, and as applied by a recent directive from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, has obliterated the presumption of innocence that is so foundational to our traditions of justice. On today’s college campuses, neither “beyond a reasonable doubt,” nor even the lesser “by clear and convincing evidence” standard of proof is required to establish guilt of sexual misconduct. These safeguards of due process have, by order of the federal government, been replaced by what is known as “a preponderance of the evidence.” What this means, in plain English, is that all my son’s accuser needed to establish before a campus tribunal is that the allegations were “more likely than not” to have occurred by a margin of proof that can be as slim as 50.1% to 49.9%.\* College in the U.S. is a dangerous place to be a young man, If I were a young man I’d keep my dick in my pants for the four years there. You don’t think this could be considered an MRA issue ? Did you read the same article I did. The fact is this feminist really doesn’t give a shit about other men that gets chewed up, lives destroyed, families broken from false rape accusations. But when her son is a victim, she gives a shit. For a little bit. This feminist on the other hand gets it [“Women don’t Lie.” ~ Anonymous "](http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/05/women-lie-anonymous/) False rape accusations against men are devastating . Ask [Brian Banks](http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/03/22/nfl-dream-delayed-by-false-rape-charge-60-minutes/174571/) who spent five years in jail, the College is suing her for one million to recoup for what they paid out to her because she went after the college for not protecting her. While the DA is still hemming and hawing whether they should be charging her for making the false claim. Throwing her in jail would be too mean, I guess. After all she’s just a girl /s ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/322 "2013-04-20T17:32:05Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > In fact, Title IX, that so-called guarantor of equality between the sexes on college campuses, and as applied by a recent directive from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, has obliterated the presumption of innocence that is so foundational to our traditions of justice. On today’s college campuses, neither “beyond a reasonable doubt,” nor even the lesser “by clear and convincing evidence” standard of proof is required to establish guilt of sexual misconduct. > > These safeguards of due process have, by order of the federal government, been replaced by what is known as “a preponderance of the evidence.” What this means, in plain English, is that all my son’s accuser needed to establish before a campus tribunal is that the allegations were “more likely than not” to have occurred by a margin of proof that can be as slim as 50.1% to 49.9%. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t “a preponderance of the evidence” the standard of proof required in _any civil matter or trial in the US_? I fail to see why it’s so outrageous that college tribunals don’t use the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard, when in any courtroom that’s hearing a civil trial they don’t use that standard either. To use a famous example, OJ Simpson was found not guilty based on “beyond a reasonable doubt” in his criminal trial, and then when he was sued the civil trial found that by the “preponderance of the evidence” standard he was guilty. In the linked example, the man was found innocent by the tribunal. But even if he had been found guilty, there’s steps he could have taken beyond that. I’m sure there’s higher levels of appeal than the tribunal, or he could sue them in regular court. ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/323 "2013-04-20T17:41:32Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > In fact, Title IX, that so-called guarantor of equality between the sexes on college campuses, and as applied by a recent directive from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, has obliterated the presumption of innocence that is so foundational to our traditions of justice. On today’s college campuses, neither “beyond a reasonable doubt,” nor even the lesser “by clear and convincing evidence” standard of proof is required to establish guilt of sexual misconduct. I missed the edit window, but I wanted to add: This article was written by the man’s mother (who says she is a lawyer), but even my non-lawyer self knows that what she wrote here isn’t correct. She conflates “presumption of innocence” with the standard of proof that is required. They are completely separate concepts. A tribunal could theoretically have presumption of innocence and use the standard of preponderance of the evidence. Or they could have a presumption of guilt, and use the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. She has cited a directive from the DoE regarding the standard of proof, but nothing to back up her statement that the tribunals do not have a presumption of innocence. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/324 "2013-04-20T17:55:21Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > The first google result for “wooden chairs discrimination” is a website called Manboobz, which is for making for of MRAs. It claims this position was taken by Tom Martin, who was actually suing his school because they ran and advertised a large number of women-only services, including women-only times at their gym, with no male equivalents, and because he felt the gender studies curriculum was so biassed against men as to constitute sexual discrimination. > > So, bullshit again. No-one ever sued anyone because hard chairs hurt his balls. > **[Court rejects student Tom Martin’s claim of anti-male bias at London School...](https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/court-rejects-student-tom-martin%E2%80%99s-claim-anti-male-bias-london-school-economics)** > > \[empty content\] > [@](#): > > Mr Martin, who describes himself as a feminist, said “hard” chairs in the library were uncomfortable for men Any more lies to tell? ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/325 "2013-04-20T18:00:06Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Most accusations of rape are from women against men, and after reading this part: > > \*In fact, Title IX, that so-called guarantor of equality between the sexes on college campuses, and as applied by a recent directive from the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, has obliterated the presumption of innocence that is so foundational to our traditions of justice. On today’s college campuses, neither “beyond a reasonable doubt,” nor even the lesser “by clear and convincing evidence” standard of proof is required to establish guilt of sexual misconduct. > > These safeguards of due process have, by order of the federal government, been replaced by what is known as “a preponderance of the evidence.” What this means, in plain English, is that all my son’s accuser needed to establish before a campus tribunal is that the allegations were “more likely than not” to have occurred by a margin of proof that can be as slim as 50.1% to 49.9%.\* > > College in the U.S. is a dangerous place to be a young man, If I were a young man I’d keep my dick in my pants for the four years there. > > You don’t think this could be considered an MRA issue ? Did you read the same article I did. The fact is this feminist really doesn’t give a shit about other men that gets chewed up, lives destroyed, families broken from false rape accusations. But when her son is a victim, she gives a shit. For a little bit. > > This feminist on the other hand gets it [“Women don’t Lie.” ~ Anonymous "](http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/05/women-lie-anonymous/) > > False rape accusations against men are devastating . Ask [Brian Banks](http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/03/22/nfl-dream-delayed-by-false-rape-charge-60-minutes/174571/) who spent five years in jail, the College is suing her for one million to recoup for what they paid out to her because she went after the college for not protecting her. While the DA is still hemming and hawing whether they should be charging her for making the false claim. > > Throwing her in jail would be too mean, I guess. After all she’s just a girl /s **Waenara** pretty much dealt with all this, but I wanted to point out again that you are confusing (purposefully?) a tribunal at a university with a criminal court. Obviously they aren’t the same. There may not be a presumption of innocence at your job either, if you sexually harass or rape someone. So what? A private institution gets to do that; a court of criminal law does not. And if you are seriously going to pretend that universities are harder on the people accused of rape rather than the victim, you obviously know nothing about the situation in American schools. Educate yourself, because you look foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/326 "2013-04-20T19:20:10Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > **Waenara** pretty much dealt with all this, but I wanted to point out again that you are confusing (purposefully?) a tribunal at a university with a criminal court. Obviously they aren’t the same. There may not be a presumption of innocence at your job either, if you sexually harass or rape someone. So what? A private institution gets to do that; a court of criminal law does not. > > And if you are seriously going to pretend that universities are harder on the people accused of rape rather than the victim, you obviously know nothing about the situation in American schools. Educate yourself, because you look foolish. If they wouldn’t of dropped it he would of ended up in a criminal court, that’s the point that’s making you look foolish. They have a responsibility to escalate it to police if he was found guilty I would think , We’re I’m from rape is a serious accusation.Or do Universities have their own prisons and penal system now. Its the process of the tribunal is what is troubling, he wasn’t allowed representation, his evidence wasn’t allowed etc. I don’t know if you’re purposefully being obtuse by not staying on point.. But I’m done debating with you. I’m posting these links on men’s issues as they arise for other people to read, not for you and others like you here on the SD who are so entrenched in their position it’ll never change for one reason or another anyways , maybe it’s because you spent so much money and time earning that women’s studies degree and what I and others are bringing forward gets you all cranky. Sorry I know it sucks , maybe you should of taken a trade instead. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/327 "2013-04-20T19:42:27Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > If I were a young man I’d keep my dick in my pants for the four years there. You’d be missing out on one of the best parts of a college education. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/328 "2013-04-20T20:56:39Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > If they wouldn’t of dropped it he would of ended up in a criminal court, that’s the point that’s making you look foolish. They have a responsibility to escalate it to police if he was found guilty I would think , We’re I’m from rape is a serious accusation.Or do Universities have their own prisons and penal system now. You should read up on what happens in these tribunals before you spout off. generally the worst that happens is the kid is kicked out of school, or made to transfer away from the victim. The police are not called; that’s what the tribunal is for. Educate yourself. You look foolish. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/329 "2013-04-21T06:27:13Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Educate yourself. You look foolish. [Grammar Nazi]Even more so with all the “would of” and "could of"s in there.[/GN] ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/330 "2013-04-21T07:43:03Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > [http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2012/mar/court-rejects-student-tom-martin’s-claim-anti-male-bias-london-school-economics](http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2012/mar/court-rejects-student-tom-martin%E2%80%99s-claim-anti-male-bias-london-school-economics) > Any more lies to tell? You never seem to run out. Yes, he’s an idiot, after all he’s a feminist. But he did not sue anyone over the hardness of their chairs or the effect that might have on his balls. You are simply too lazy to look up what you’re claiming and too arrogant to admit when you make a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/331 "2013-04-21T08:12:44Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > You should read up on what happens in these tribunals before you spout off. generally the worst that happens is the kid is kicked out of school, or made to transfer away from the victim. The police are not called; that’s what the tribunal is for. > > Educate yourself. You look foolish. That’s pretty obviously unjust. If it was a rape, the rapist doesn’t have to bother about the law but gets off with almost no punishment. If it wasn’t a rape, then a man will have his education ruined when he’s done nothing wrong. Of course, if it’s really a rape there’s nothing to prevent the real police being resorted to, and the special procedures in these tribunals mean the accuser can be certain there will be no repurcussions, while the defendant is hobbled. It’s a charter for false accusers, and one intentionally designed by feminists to disadvantage men. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/332 "2013-04-21T08:36:58Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > If they wouldn’t of dropped it he would of ended up in a criminal court, that’s the point that’s making you look foolish. They have a responsibility to escalate it to police if he was found guilty I would think , We’re I’m from rape is a serious accusation.Or do Universities have their own prisons and penal system now. > > Its the process of the tribunal is what is troubling, he wasn’t allowed representation, his evidence wasn’t allowed etc. I don’t know if you’re purposefully being obtuse by not staying on point.. But I’m done debating with you. > > I’m posting these links on men’s issues as they arise for other people to read, not for you and others like you here on the SD who are so entrenched in their position it’ll never change for one reason or another anyways , maybe it’s because you spent so much money and time earning that women’s studies degree and what I and others are bringing forward gets you all cranky. > > Sorry I know it sucks , maybe you should of taken a trade instead. > [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > You should read up on what happens in these tribunals before you spout off. generally the worst that happens is the kid is kicked out of school, or made to transfer away from the victim. The police are not called; that’s what the tribunal is for. > > Educate yourself. You look foolish. Actually, college campuses DO have their own [“justice”](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124111931&ps=rs) system. And those scare quotes are deliberate. What frequently happens is that the rapist is counseled not to rape again, and he might get a short suspension. The victim is basically told to suck it up…especially if the rapist is a student athlete. Colleges prefer to handle rape and other crimes within the college system, and avoid dragging the real police into it. The real police might discover that this particular student has been accused of rape/sexual assault several times, for instance. And then they’d want to arrest him, and his name (and the college’s) would get into the papers, and the college would get all sorts of bad publicity. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/333 "2013-04-21T08:41:32Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > That’s pretty obviously unjust. If it was a rape, the rapist doesn’t have to bother about the law but gets off with almost no punishment. If it wasn’t a rape, then a man will have his education ruined when he’s done nothing wrong. Of course, if it’s really a rape there’s nothing to prevent the real police being resorted to, and the special procedures in these tribunals mean the accuser can be certain there will be no repurcussions, while the defendant is hobbled. It’s a charter for false accusers, and one intentionally designed by feminists to disadvantage men. What generally happens is that the victim reports the assault to campus security, who will apply pressure to the victim to not go to the cops. And rape evidence needs to be collected as soon as possible. Some victims are even threatened with [expulsion](http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/college-rape-victim-faces-expulsion-speaking-out) because they spoke out. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/334 "2013-04-21T10:12:47Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > [Grammar Nazi]Even more so with all the “would of” and "could of"s in there.[/GN] Ahh yes the lowest common denominator that requires the least amount of intellectual effort when it comes to winning an arguement on the SD by going after grammar. Here’s a cookie. Now get on yer bike and chug along. ---
**Author:** ![Ibanez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@Ibanez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibanez)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/335 "2013-04-21T10:35:13Z")
[Debtor’s prison for dads](http://www.barbarakay.ca/articles/view/485) Sad story they take away his means to make the child support payments. Then told him pay up 10K or face 188 days in jail. He killed himself, he actually only owed 4k. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/336 "2013-04-21T10:38:27Z")
Inspired by Ibanez, some links on the subject of Men’s Rights Issues, specifically discrimination against men in the labour market: [this study](http://sexes.martinsewell.com/RiachRich2006.pdf) (pdf) shows discrimination against men in a range of employment sectors in London. It uses the standard technique of sending CVs which are identical other than by sex, to a range of employers and seeing which one is most likely to be called in for interview. A similar [Australian study](http://ftp.iza.org/dp4690.pdf) (pdf) exclusively conducted in “female dominated” occupations, female domination determined by the percentage of the workforce in that occupation which is female. There’s also [this Israeli study](http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/2010/12/01/20101201beautiful-women-job-woes.html?nclick_check=1). I link to this Arizona based website because that’s the only one that actually gives percentages. It, like all the other stories on this study, focuses on the finding that ugly women do better than good-looking women, and handsome men better than ugly men, but the Economist and Ha’aretz didn’t bother printing numbers, which show that when no photograph was included women did rather better than men, 16.6 to 13.7 percent. I suppose discrimination against men is still a controversial topic, whereas pandering to pretty girls is more appealing. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/337 "2013-04-21T11:56:06Z")
Here’s one for you: [Women like women more than men like men](http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women.aspx). Women have a far greater in-group bias that men do. Which might explain the feminists here asserting that we live in a patriarchy while unable to refute the disadvantages under which men labour, or to provide any analogous ways in which women as disadvantaged. The tiniest problem for women gets their attention, the great problems of men are ignored. Also, that men who are sexually satisfied are less likely to be biassed in favour of women. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/338 "2013-04-21T12:49:22Z")
[This study](http://www.terry.uga.edu/~cornwl/research/cmvp.genderdiffs.pdf) shows bias against male students by primary school teachers. [This article](http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/16/female-teachers-give-male_n_1281236.html) shows bias specifically against male students by female teachers, obviously a major problem with the almost-monopoly on teaching jobs held by women. [This story](http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/sep/01/girls-boys-schools-gender-gap) shows teachers having a better attitude towards female students, which is (as in the famous study by Jane Elliott) bound to have the effect of retarding male achievement. Boys are also, not surprising with all the bias, [70% of those receiving suspensions](http://www.webcitation.org/6FvhhQ30e). And obviously women have outnumbered men in higher education [since 1980](http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2013/03/20/how_to_keep_men_falling_behind_in_two_steps_464.html), and are now 60% of those getting degrees. ---
**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/339 "2013-04-21T13:41:24Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > Here’s one for you: [Women like women more than men like men](http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec04/women.aspx). Women have a far greater in-group bias that men do. Which might explain the feminists here asserting that we live in a patriarchy while unable to refute the disadvantages under which men labour, or to provide any analogous ways in which women as disadvantaged. The tiniest problem for women gets their attention, the great problems of men are ignored. > > Also, that men who are sexually satisfied are less likely to be biassed in favour of women. The article states: > [@your link](#): > > Implicitly, men who reported liking sex also preferred women, but only if they were high on sexual experience. Men low on sexual experience showed implicit sexism to the extent they liked sex. > > “These results suggest that for men, pro-female bias is moderated by sexual gratification,” Rudman says. “By contrast, women who implicitly liked sex also preferred men, whether or not they were high on sexual experience.” I believe that is the opposite of what you think it says. In general, I do not think this article supports your views. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/340 "2013-04-21T15:34:32Z")
> [@stretch](#): > > The article states: > > I believe that is the opposite of what you think it says. In general, I do not think this article supports your views. “Also, that men who are sexually satisfied are less likely to be biassed in favour of women” “These results suggest that for men, pro-female bias is moderated by sexual gratification,” Clearly diametrically opposed positions. But please, feel free to offer some rationale for your bizarre and outlandish statement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049.md?page=18)